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HA HA REPTILES - anyone do business with them recently?

hahareptiles.com

Well I got an order from them, animals were o.k. (80 '05 turtles, frogs, scorpions, pretty foolproof) but packaging and shipping was not too hot, paid $49.95 for shipping - the order was sent in a small (shoe box size) plain cardboard box, not styro, no cool packs, very little cushioning material, mailed overnight thru post office (postage was 21.00). Animals were very warm upon arrival.

I doubt we will order from them again if this is their usual shipping method.
 
Thanks for the heads up Jon. It's a shame that some people really seem to not care for the animals.
 
dzoo said:
Well I got an order from them, animals were o.k. (80 '05 turtles, frogs, scorpions, pretty foolproof) but packaging and shipping was not too hot, paid $49.95 for shipping - the order was sent in a small (shoe box size) plain cardboard box, not styro, no cool packs, very little cushioning material, mailed overnight thru post office (postage was 21.00). Animals were very warm upon arrival.
So they care not about the reptiles AND they made a profit on shipping. Lovely. For $50 you should have gotten professional packaging and door to door service with guaranteed AM delivery. Of course that is JMHO.

Did you take any photos of the box, or can you, so it they can be posted here for posterity?
 
Don't get me wrong, the animals I got seem to be in great shape and the price, selection and communication was good. The terms of their warranty and live delivery guarantee as stated on the website are far above industry norms (30 day guarantee).

Definately not the worst shipment I have ever received. Just the shipping method was not the best. The animals were packed correctly inside the box (deli cups with moss) but the outer box and packing was not adequate.If they can get that corrected they may be a good company to deal with.

They apparently have their own turtle farm http://www.allapattahflats.com/ which is what initially attracted me to them after seeing an ad on KS, HaHa is their wholesale division then they also have several other website.
 
I addressed my concerns with the owner, Mr. Felton Willis and he seemed genuinely concerned and assured me that this will be communicated with his staff and corrected in the future.
I should have talked with him before posting.
 
Seems a good site.

The site at least is pretty well put together. Did you pass this feedback to them? Possibly not true here, but it seems that often people don't give any feedback to the seller.
 
Jon,for the record,Allapattah Flats Turtle Reserve is NOT owned by Ha Ha Reptiles.It is owned by Al Weinberg.HaHa is owned by Felton Willis,who also owns Reptile City,TurtleCity,and I am sure a host of other overly advertised online Death Bowl sites.

Have I ever bought anything from Felton?No.Would I piss on him if he was on fire?No.

Andy Sury
 
brucestephenson said:
Hey Andy,

Can you tell us more about him? What are you saying, big guy? :cool:
Bruce,

I think he's saying he wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. :rofl: :rofl: :toiletcla
 
Jim O said:
Bruce,

I think he's saying he wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. :rofl: :rofl: :toiletcla

I think he's saying that he WOULD piss on him if he was on fire, but only for the sake of actually pissing on him.
 
Even though Andy is bigger than Chewbacca, he is a very nice, easy-going guy. Ha Ha must have done something rather spectacular get him that upset.
 
Ophis said:
I think he's saying that he WOULD piss on him if he was on fire, but only for the sake of actually pissing on him.
Joe,

That is not how I read his actual words:
turtlepimp said:
Would I piss on him if he was on fire?No.
:>poke2<:
 
brucestephenson said:
Even though Andy is bigger than Chewbacca, he is a very nice, easy-going guy. Ha Ha must have done something rather spectacular get him that upset.
I have only seen Andy in a photo but he is huge. But I can attest to his being a nice, easy-going guy. No doubt this fellow, Felton Willis, has earned the commentary from Andy.
 
Basically it comes down to this.Let me get my daughter out of the room first.

Time to air some dirty laundry.I consider Al Weinberg a pretty good friend.He has taught me a good bit of what I know about turtles,and he also turned me loose on his 10 acre turtle farm.I have fed,cleaned,and watched more turtles there than you would imagine.My collection is based on a select few who have opened their doors to a fellow turtle fanatic.

You know what?I will skip the public particulars and simply say he ran his dirthole(the one north of his ass) a little too loud about Al,in front of my 11 year old daughter.At last Octobers Tampa show.And I am talking nasty stuff that would in other circumstances get you a straight right hand down the pipe.And I try hard not to use my size to affect other peoples decisions on anything,but this walking peice of dog poopy has no class,no couth,and I consider him a detriment to the industry.

Ok a few particulars.Repeatedly selling fellow TurtleTimes (and others)members the wrong
turtle,Post office shipping(he got in a bit of trouble for that one),piss poor shipping practices(packing),and selling retail animals of questionable health or simply the wrong animals.And if Mr.Felton wants to dance,it is all either readily available or is archived(I have access).

He also has a habit of growing quite larger than his 5'3" frame the more he drinks.I have little use for Napoleans.

Time is short,but I will hunt up a few choice links.

Andy Sury
 
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