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Bad Guy ED CLARK what a piece of work!

Meanwhile trying to remember the topic….
This is the thread where we are waiting for John Martino of RMJ Reptiles to figure out a way to come on and verify Mr. Clark’s debt to him is it not?

The way I see it he has quite a task since at the same time he must figure out a way to, (a) disassociate himself from Mr. Belcher so as not to taint his and Mr. Clark’s reputation and (b) not provide Mr. Clark or Mr. Belcher with any ammo they can use against him.
I’ll bet falsifying testimony is hard when you have three people in the mix that all need to be protected. Especially when you have at least two in the mix that are untrustworthy.
I can almost hear the frantic phone calls going back and forth and see the emails being exchanged.

“Say this”
“No No!!! That makes me look bad!!”
“But if I don’t say something like this I’ll look bad.”
“Yes but if you say XX then I’m gonna look worse.”
“Well if you say ZZZ I’m gonna out you for ….”
 
See, I always said Mr. Dove was a very insightful man!!
 
Come on guys, you know Ed doesn't flip animals. He produces everything he sells. :rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
So this thread has served a purpose. Not only will I avoid dealing with Allen Belcher and Ed Clark, but also John Martino of RMJ Reptiles in NJ as well.

Another good ting to come out of this thread is finding out that John Michael Martino out of Long Island is a different entity all together. You work with arboreals, don't you, John?
 
Oh good grief, I promised myself that I was gonna stay out of this mess but, I contacted John and here's the email.
Laura Fopiano <[email protected]>
to"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
dateTue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:25 AM
Hi John, you don't know me but I thought you would like to know that
your name has been called into question on Fauna Classifieds Board Of
Inquiry http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124265
Any information that you could add to this thread would be helpful.
Thank you for your time Laura Cox.

john martino <[email protected]>
toLaura Fopiano <[email protected]>
dateTue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:49 AM
subjectRe: BOI


hello laura,
thanks, i ve been told, and its all bs.. well the part that ed clark owes me money is true, but the rest is bs.. allen and eddie hate each other, so they are fighting..
kids........lol
John Martino
www.rmjreptiles.com
973 768 6340
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So who is really telling the truth?
 
captnemo said:
Too shady for my tastes....I'll just stay away from that trio. Who needs the drama?

Off topic: Anyone who wants to discuss sexism in threads, go to HELL (not really Hell, you know...the HELL forum). Here's the link:http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?p=663587#post663587
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If sexism rears its ugly head in a topic then that topic is an appropriate place for the offending comment to be addressed. No one saved retaliation to the racist comments in natalies thread for the hell forum and with good reason. Such comments are needlessly unkind and thoughtless. Sexism isn't going to stop if it just gets swept under the rug. People need to understand that these comments are hurtful and the people who say them are no better than natalie and her husband.
 
Morphie said:
If sexism rears its ugly head in a topic then that topic is an appropriate place for the offending comment to be addressed. No one saved retaliation to the racist comments in natalies thread for the hell forum and with good reason. Such comments are needlessly unkind and thoughtless. Sexism isn't going to stop if it just gets swept under the rug. People need to understand that these comments are hurtful and the people who say them are no better than natalie and her husband.
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I disagree. The sexism topic isn't being "swept under the rug" by being in HELL. HELL is a more appropriate venue, since sexism has nothing to do with a TRANSACTION between Ed, RMJ, or Allen. In HELL we can freely discuss it. Oh, and this isn't a Beacom thread.

On-topic: I find this whole thread a joke. It's as if they gain some sort of odd pleasure from making obscure statements (like being unable to disclose details, ect.). Oh come on, what are you, five? The whole "I know something you don't know, and I'm not going to tell you" crap is old. What exactly is your purpose in bringing your issues to the BOI if are aren't going to tell everyone what happened?

It seems to me you just want attention, positive or negative.
 
Yeah, uh, Morphie, I don't see the point of beating that topic further on this thread, which is supposed to be about Big Daddy/Ed Clark and whoever else is/isn't involved in them :p

KISS - keep it short, sweet ;) It REALLY WASN'T that big a deal.
 
Oh dear lord.

The women who earn this sort of reputation are the women who make a big deal out of it. Don't become what you hate by becoming the typical "whiny, easily-upset girl" stereotype.

I know plenty of women with enough balls to laugh at that joke. (That's right. I said balls. Get over it.)

Besides, none of the people in question are women (or are they?) so, we shouldn't be talking about genders/bodily functions in the first place.
 
Here is the real story.!!!!From John Martino

hello folks,
this is the first and probably the last time i will post here..
im coming on here to explain this whole mess this has turned into....
i will do the best i can to make it clear so there isnt a tone of replies for questions i didnt answer...Many of you in the tri state area, ny,nj, ct,
know of me and my company RMJ reptiles, we are one of the largest breeders in the area, many have been to my facility, and i welcome all...we produce over 100 to 150 clutches per year, and do alt of whole sale work over seas, and domestic, eg, ed clark, allen belcher. plus many more that i wont expose since they aren't involved in this matter. ive done business with them over the last few years without incident, and honestly many people dont like these 2 men, but they have always done right by me, paying etc. alt of people dont like them, but that shouldnt be any reflection on me, business is business....
until now like i said havent had any problems with giving them animals then accepting payments within 30 days, but last year ed clark came to me and picked up several packages during the hatch, every time he had come he would bring partial payment for the last pick up, then would proceed to take more animals and tell me what price he needed to pay, and we always came to an agreement , so that him and me were satisfied.......the last group he had taken was a large group over 16k, and he had paid me up until there was a balance of 7200.00, ive been waiting for payment now over a year on that, and he cut off all conversation with me, till recent a few days ago when allen posted this thread, you see allen does debt collecting for a living, and he told me he would collect it for me for a fee, i figured at this point anything was better than nothing,????? so i said ok, this is why he had mentioned that he was involved and part of the money was his, which is correct if he collects it!!!!!! and in order to post here on boi, he had explained that he needed to let them know that the animals that eddie took were partially his, in a partner type deal other wise webslave would pull it down according to the rules????? hope your following me... so the truth is eddie does owe me money. he had mentioned the reason he didnt pay me cause the market crashed and he paid too much for the animals.. Im sorry..too bad....a deal is a deal.....
and as of the last 2 days had not answered one phone call from me, or email, he orridinally sent me a list of animals to full fill the debt but it was all junk....... 14 animals in all, and i said i would only want 3 of them, the rest was like male yellowbellies, and mojo, spiders etc, i dont want that , i gave him premium animals, pieds, lesser, honeybees, pewters...so, i told him i wasnt interested and he had to come up with something else..and as far as allen goes he did me a great favor by getting eddie out of hiding, so that i can start getting paid...every one is getting on allens back and all he did was try to help me......sorry for all the drama, but it happens... and as i said before i have an open door policy at my facility, if anyone wants to come down to purchase any animals or just hang and talk snake buizz,,, im cool, have some cold beers and mountain dews...
hope this helps,, wow, now my head hurts...
if you have further questions, call 973 768 6340 or email. [email protected] i welcome all .
thanks again, and happy new year to all.
john martino
 
HiddenHollowHerp said:
(That's right. I said balls. Get over it.)
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get over what, exactly?

Read my lips (lol) I am not offended by what he said. It's difficult to offend me at all - I was merely pointing out a big discrepancy between what people perceive is okay to say about different groups of people. I don't know why women in particular should have to take more crap than any other group who would be adamantly defended by these folks under the same circumstances. It just doesn't make sense to me, and I think OTHER folks should consider these things.
 
Morphie said:
get over what, exactly?

Read my lips (lol) I am not offended by what he said. It's difficult to offend me at all - I was merely pointing out a big discrepancy between what people perceive is okay to say about different groups of people. I don't know why women in particular should have to take more crap than any other group who would be adamantly defended by these folks under the same circumstances. It just doesn't make sense to me, and I think OTHER folks should consider these things.
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What crap did i take for his comment? I got enjoyment out of it............. Speak for yourself.
 
HiddenHollowHerp said:
Oh dear lord.

The women who earn this sort of reputation are the women who make a big deal out of it. Don't become what you hate by becoming the typical "whiny, easily-upset girl" stereotype.

I know plenty of women with enough balls to laugh at that joke. (That's right. I said balls. Get over it.)

Besides, none of the people in question are women (or are they?) so, we shouldn't be talking about genders/bodily functions in the first place.
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Spoken like a REAL Man! ;)

It is not a reputation with regard to women that is in question here. It is a stereotype, and there is a HUGE difference between the two.


Fun thread. :ack2:

Donna Chatham
 
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