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I'm done

DAND said:
Please, someone tell me how to reverse my polarity!
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Dude, that's easy...you just get a fully charged car battery, hook up leads to the terminals, strip the insulation off the other ends, place the end of the negative lead between your teeth, and take the positive lead and shove.....ummm, well, maybe not.

But to mirror Rick's sentiments, take it all as lessons learned, regroup, and get back to being the good person that you are deep down.
 
ok

so three dang times I typed a big page, then lost internet connection (staying at a cabin in southern MN for the weekend) so I apparently should keep this short


People do Suck..

do not become one of them

Every now and then, you will find someone who is awesome, and a GOOD person..

so be good, find the good in life. Others will notice.. (and not JUST the scum babies)
 
Dave,
You are a GREAT guy. You have been a mentor to me in this industry so many people refer to as a hobby. You have had answers to all of my questions even when they were stupid and have bent over backwards to get me things I was in search of. You helped me through my "chaotic" debacle and introduced me to this forum. Thank you.
I know that you are not one to ask for help, but if you ever need anything or just someone to talk to give me a call.
 
lpcad said:
Dave,
You are a GREAT guy. You have been a mentor to me in this industry so many people refer to as a hobby. You have had answers to all of my questions even when they were stupid and have bent over backwards to get me things I was in search of. You helped me through my "chaotic" debacle and introduced me to this forum. Thank you.
I know that you are not one to ask for help, but if you ever need anything or just someone to talk to give me a call.
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Thank you Jim, and you're welcome too, and I am sure you know if you ever need anything do not hesitate to ask. I know the kind of person I am and I'll probably never stop being that person regardless of how much others beat me down but it's just so damn frustrating getting treated like crap after I go out of my way to help someone and then being made out to being the bad guy because I am upset after being treated poorly. As I had said, this instance was minor in comparison to others but it was the straw that broke the camel's back.
 
DAND said:
Thank you Jim, and you're welcome too, and I am sure you know if you ever need anything do not hesitate to ask. I know the kind of person I am and I'll probably never stop being that person regardless of how much others beat me down but it's just so damn frustrating getting treated like crap after I go out of my way to help someone and then being made out to being the bad guy because I am upset after being treated poorly. As I had said, this instance was minor in comparison to others but it was the straw that broke the camel's back.
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we can party in Cleveland. But you are buying everything LMAO.....JK
 
hhhmmmm I hear the checks from good year.......... Wait you would not do that.
 
I just read through most of this and I have had much of the same problems with lots of friends and family. Then I just figured one day why get upset. I'll still help when ever I can and I'll still have people do the same thing, so I changed my persective. I only lend what I can afford to lose. I ask for repayment whenever and however. (My husband's got some really great ink from one friend for a phone bill ect. ) Any way I always just assume in my head it's a gift and then whatever you get back is great. It's like finding a 20 in the wash. This also keeps you from lending or doing something that you really don't have time or resources for. Ask yourself can I afford this, would I help redo a room because they need my help and I want to help them. I also expect karma to pay me back and so far it's been working. I've been given all kinds of other things for no reason other than I'm sure I pay it foward enough. Don't change who you are there are far too few people in the world who do help others.
 
It does suck when people crap all over you when you've gone out on a limb for them. I think the last time I went through all of that was 15 or so years ago (I'm 38). I found myself being a doormat (which is definitely not my personality, not sure how the hell it happened).

I have some pretty firm rules now:

1) I have many acquaintances, but very few real friends. And I do have high standards I establish for anyone who is going to be my friend. This so far has minimized any issues. I am friendly with my acquaintances, but it is easy for me to say no to them if need be.

2) I don't loan anyone money. I make donations to various charities in amounts I can afford. I have a wife and child and will not put the nees of anyone ahead of them. Besides, loaning money is a surefire way to sour a relationship (from what I've seen). I will buy friends drinks, dinner, cut them a deal on animals or equipment, but asking me for money is a way to make me scarce in a hurry.

3) Outside of immediate family, no one gets bailed out of jail. I have to assume someone did a pretty good job of getting there, so they can find their own way out.

And lastly, I am a generally friendly person, but I maintain a healthy cynicism. I believe there are a lot of generally good and generally bad people out there. My most basic rule is to treat people how I would want to be treated. I wouldn't ask someone to bail me out of jail (unless it was immediate family or someone I really didn't like :D), I haven't asked people for money even when times were hard (I just worked harder or got rid of things that were owning me) and most of all I don't worry about what most people think about me. My friends, families and those I work for are enough.

I wish you good luck. You sound like a conscientious person and I don't know the specific circumstances of what happened, just make sure you learn and don't get used again. If you do got out on a limb for someone again, make sure they aren't holding a saw!
 
DAND said:
PEOPLE SUCK!
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Everyone welcome our newest member, David Gruning!! Welcome aboard, David, glad to have you with us!!

By the way, you aint got $20 you could loan a brother do ya?
 
Bitchfest part II

Well a little more than a week has passed and I am in an even darker place then before. It seems the pot has simmered and now come to a boil. When I started this thread I was fed up but anger has set in now. Not the jumping up and down kind of anger but the quiet inner anger which need not be released but quieted some how. As with the beginning of this thread I again need to vent after finding more and more people who suck as well as finding out that some suck even more than previously thought (gotta love those over achievers don't you?).

All the lies that are so transparent just sicken me. Hell, all the lies period, sicken me. And always an excuse or answer, oh I mean another lie to cover up the first. Never someone coming clean, just lie, after lie, after lie, after gosh darn flipping (I think most are getting my meaning here) lie. (Odd as it may sound I still believe that when I was told (roughly) "I sent you cash, let me know when you get it", it was indeed sent even know it has been a week now) *I think I had to add that to see if I am totally losing my judge of character as well as my mind.

All this comes when I show kindness, compassion or generosity to what turns out to be an undeserving individual. This anger has become a collective collage versus an individual event or person at this point, with the exception of the head of this beast I am doing my best to hold back.

When I was told that I cannot be trusted because I posted this thread, it has been churning through my mind and stomach since I heard it said. I'm pretty sure it was at this point when the anger started and it has been quietly growing ever since. I feel myself getting wound tighter and tighter despite my best efforts to stop it. Yeah, fine I'm the bad guy. It was wrong for me to post this here and I guess I am continuing to be wrong in posting this also. Yeah, whatever.....
 
DAND said:
Yeah, fine I'm the bad guy. It was wrong for me to post this here and I guess I am continuing to be wrong in posting this also. Yeah, whatever.....
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I'm going to come over there and tan your behind, grasshopper. Pull yourself out of this funk you got yourself into.

You did a good thing. Sometimes, as the saying goes, virtue never goes unpunished.

You KNOW that you are a good person. The person you helped turned and bit the hand that fed her. Does that reflect on you? Of course not.

You are entitled to your feelings, I'm not saying you aren't. But you got to shake this. All of us like you and appreciate you. I guess I'm not understanding why the great weight of positive comments is not erasing the bad experience from someone who should have behaved better (heck if she had behaved better you wouldn't have had to do her this favor in the first place).
 
Lucille, I got your back when you go to tannin' his hide...I feel like this is an appropriate time for the scene with Cher & Nicholas Cage (though obviously not for the same reasons) where she slaps him in the face and yells, "SNAP OUT OF IT!"
(This is purely for dramatic effect & is in no way meant to promote domestic violence!)
Dave, do you really want to have Lucille whoopin yer butt???
WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP? Lord knows there are enough of us here that don't like to see you like this!
 
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