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[Classic Dum's]

Look, going back and forth arguing over this doesn't change what's being said behind the scenes and what is being said here in public. I asked two questions that are pertinent to both shows, Denise answered them. Those that are directly involved know what is truly being said by whom. Until those individuals step up, continuing to argue is fruitless.

Personally, I'm going to sit back, wait and see what happens. I hope that this gets worked out. I hope that people take the honest route.

you should have done that in the first place, you try to act like your above it all, but your part of the reason this keeps going on, you keep running on with 2nd hand bullshit you should have never started with in the first place

 

[Classic Dum's]

Jason, I suggest you speak with Marty about the issues you have posted. I can assure you that you are sorely mistaken on many things here and if you truly wish to get to the bottom of this, you should speak with him, or me, first hand. I'll gladly speak with you anytime. If you pm me your number, I'll give you a call. Thank you.

i have soime question for you, you keep advertising the bathrooms and the place wasnt clean your girlfriend there talkin about not being able to sit on the pot in the begining of this thread, i find it interesting you said this

Jason, it's always been a dirty dingy place as you put it. But would you expect him to leave without a game plan?

is it true the fire hall threw marty out for destruction of the property? there was a locker room that was busted up, glass window and doors or door frames? is part of the reason the fire hall threw him out also because failure to properly clean the hall, the parking lot the bathrooms the inside of the hall??? yes or no will do and please dont give me this lets talk in private shit

im asking you directly if this is true since your involved with the show, this was just brought to my attention yes 2nd hand info so im asking for the truth and i will get to it one way or the other, how ironic would it be that every advertising angle he has for his new show was problems he created, i dont think anyone can deny the overcrowding was his problem n not venue/denise problem, the cleanlyness was that part of his "game plan" as you put it????


have a good day

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

Sorry Jason, but it's not second hand information. I had a right to ask the questions I did. I stepped up and asked what others were afraid to publicly. I'm not one to let things be swept under the rug. I see the accusations made as a serious concern. As a reptile enthusiast, it concerns me that all of this is going on behind the scenes when promoters should be supporting each other...Uniting...

Have you considered what it will look like on you if other individuals do step up an corroborate the statements made? Calling myself, Dan and Marty a liar (not to mention the vendors who have been directly affected by this) is sort of a big deal. I would publicly offer Denise an apology if in fact neither of the statements are true. What will you do?

 

[Classic Dum's]

Sorry Jason, but it's not second hand information. I had a right to ask the questions I did. I stepped up and asked what others were afraid to publicly. I'm not one to let things be swept under the rug. I see the accusations made as a serious concern. As a reptile enthusiast, it concerns me that all of this is going on behind the scenes when promoters should be supporting each other...Uniting...

Have you considered what it will look like on you if other individuals do step up an corroborate the statements made? Calling myself, Dan and Marty a liar (not to mention the vendors who have been directly affected by this) is sort of a big deal. I would publicly offer Denise an apology if in fact neither of the statements are true. What will you do?

i dont have to worry about it sweetheart cause no one credible will ever step up

 

[dragonlvr64]

I think we all need to keep in mind that people who want to attend both of these venues as "customers" are reading this thread.

We might be putting a bad taste in their mouth about both promoters and it might adversely affect both.

 

[Classic Dum's]

Sorry Jason, but it's not second hand information. I had a right to ask the questions I did. I stepped up and asked what others were afraid to publicly. I'm not one to let things be swept under the rug. I see the accusations made as a serious concern. As a reptile enthusiast, it concerns me that all of this is going on behind the scenes when promoters should be supporting each other...Uniting...

Have you considered what it will look like on you if other individuals do step up an corroborate the statements made? Calling myself, Dan and Marty a liar (not to mention the vendors who have been directly affected by this) is sort of a big deal. I would publicly offer Denise an apology if in fact neither of the statements are true. What will you do?

hey by chance do you know a heather litz from hanover?

 

[Classic Dum's]

ill leave it at this, Dan id bet your gonna ignore this all togther or just quit respondingbut if you choose to please explain why the fire hall threw marty out

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

hey by chance do you know a heather litz from hanover?

No, sorry. But I've only lived in Hanover for the past 5 years.

I think we all need to keep in mind that people who want to attend both of these venues as "customers" are reading this thread. We might be putting a bad taste in their mouth about both promoters and it might adversely affect both.

Another great post, Cindy!

 

[DanRC30]

i have soime question for you, you keep advertising the bathrooms and the place wasnt clean your girlfriend there talkin about not being able to sit on the pot in the begining of this thread, i find it interesting you said this

My girlfriend? I don't think I ever mentioned that I even have a girlfriend.

is it true the fire hall threw marty out for destruction of the property? there was a locker room that was busted up, glass window and doors or door frames? is part of the reason the fire hall threw him out also because failure to properly clean the hall, the parking lot the bathrooms the inside of the hall??? yes or no will do and please dont give me this lets talk in private shit

im asking you directly if this is true since your involved with the show, this was just brought to my attention yes 2nd hand info so im asking for the truth and i will get to it one way or the other

It just came to your attention eh? Are you now the official investigator here? It's obvious you're talking to Denise or someone that works with her, and you're now taking over where she dropped off. Sigh... such games. I have no interest in playing here. If you want an answer to that question, you'll have to ask Marty directly. I'm not going to speak for him since it had nothing to do with me. And I never said any "sh1t" about talking in private. You're welcome to record any calls you make to me and broadcast them over the internet for all to hear. That's how mature adults deal with any issues... they discuss them in person or on the phone. I have nothing to hide. I only suggested a phone call because 1) many things can be read the wrong way on the internet, and 2) I'm having a very hard time understanding your typing style with the lack of punctuation and complete sentences.

Jason, the last thing I'm going to say is that you're being completely unreasonable and are obviously biased. I'm sure you have your reasons and you are entitled to them. You are going to hear the one side and believe it no matter what anyone says. That's clear to me, so even now I doubt a phone call would make any difference. However, Marty and I have no problem speaking with you on a conference call to try to set the record straight. I can tell you that it does sadden Marty that you've taken such an offensive stance and that you refuse to talk to him on the phone since he told me you two were friends for so long. We're not interested in putting it in this forum. It's just not productive.

 

[Classic Dum's]

It just came to your attention eh? Are you now the official investigator here? It's obvious you're talking to Denise or someone that works with her, and you're now taking over where she dropped off. Sigh... such games. I have no interest in playing here. If you want an answer to that question, you'll have to ask Marty directly. I'm not going to speak for him since it had nothing to do with me. .

oh course not lmao, somehow i knew youd side step that one



n no i wasnt speakn to denise,i did leave her a message but havnt heard back another vendor called me after they seen me posting

so lets see where we are at now,
marty is using overcrowding, comfort, cleanlyness, bathrooms etc etc as his "game plan" to advertise the new show
weve established the over crowding was a problem he created by shoving table in every place he could, the bathroms etc etc were reasons the fire hall threw him out so all the problems you and girlfriend(i was being sarcastic, moon) keep yelpin on about apear to have been created under his watch but you, him, moon keep tryn to make it apear as a venue/denise problem

 

[mikeyt]

OK FOLKS, LETS FACE THE REALITY OF THIS SITUATION:

This thread is now 14 pages long, 2 sides arguing over discrepancies that will never be agreed to by either side. It has been said that SUPPOSEDLY a credible source could come forward and resolve this matter. Lets face it, who is going to come forward and be a credible enough source that some dumb*** on this thread wont try and turn it around and say they are just biased on one side or the other. NO ONE. There isnt anyone that stupid, so that aint gonna happen.

Once again, a 14 page thread and nothing resolved. The new show is here and it is obviously gonna continue or fail, just as Hamburg is obviously going to continue or fail, and the same goes with any other show.

Going back and forth here is going no where, and whether or not anything was said or not said remains to be seen, and at this time what does it really matter and who really gives a crap. People are gonna support who they want to support, and believe what they want to believe, you cant please everybody.

Its my opinion that this should be put to rest and let it take its course, whats gonna happen is gonna happen, and we will all find a way to deal with it, and survive just as we always have.

 

[DanRC30]

OK FOLKS, LETS FACE THE REALITY OF THIS SITUATION:

This thread is now 14 pages long, 2 sides arguing over discrepancies that will never be agreed to by either side. It has been said that SUPPOSEDLY a credible source could come forward and resolve this matter. Lets face it, who is going to come forward and be a credible enough source that some dumb*** on this thread wont try and turn it around and say they are just biased on one side or the other. NO ONE. There isnt anyone that stupid, so that aint gonna happen.

Once again, a 14 page thread and nothing resolved. The new show is here and it is obviously gonna continue or fail, just as Hamburg is obviously going to continue or fail, and the same goes with any other show.

Going back and forth here is going no where, and whether or not anything was said or not said remains to be seen, and at this time what does it really matter and who really gives a crap. People are gonna support who they want to support, and believe what they want to believe, you cant please everybody.

Its my opinion that this should be put to rest and let it take its course, whats gonna happen is gonna happen, and we will all find a way to deal with it, and survive just as we always have.

Mike,
You and Cindy are right. I'm not spending further time on people who refuse to listen and only want to focus on negativity. I did the best I could to explain the situation, but like you said, you can't please everybody. They can believe what they want. It's fine with me. I know the truth and I think enough has been said.

So, let's move onto a new topic. How about you all post some pics of some of the animals you bought at the last show. I want to see what you bought and I think others would like to see too. I think we all like seeing pics of new animals!

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

How about you all post some pics of some of the animals you bought at the last show. I want to see what you bought and I think others would like to see too. I think we all like seeing pics of new animals!

Me first, me first!

 

[dragonlvr64]

2 that we picked up at the show.
Normal female and a pastel male. Both are in the process of shedding right now, poor pics. They are both awesome snakes! Very calm!

 

[Classic Dum's]

i really dont want to get this thread goin again but felt this needed to b pointed out, ive received a cple emails from people and there seems to be this missconception that i am the only vendor who feels this way about things and to lay that to rest i would like to invite everyone to join us at the next hamburg show feb 27th http://hamburgreptileshow.com/ and while there anyone who thinks im alone in the way i feel about how marty has handled things please aproach n speak to any of the vendors that were not present at martys show, your welcome to aproach me and ill point you in there direction. I assure you everyone(lets say 95% incase theres anyone new) that will b in hamburg on the 27th was invited to martys show, im sure there was a couple that had other obligations but i assure u if you ask the majority will say the same things i have, there disgusted with how marty has handled this, i may be the only one posting here but i am far from the only one sharing these feelings

n i do want to note this ive known marty probally 15yrs or better n totally shocked with whats been going on, ive never had anything less then positive to say about martry or any of our dealings, anyway thats all i got to say

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

2 that we picked up at the show.
Normal female and a pastel male. Both are in the process of shedding right now, poor pics. They are both awesome snakes! Very calm!

Cindy, I like your Pastel. He's got an attractive pattern and some nice blushing. Post more pics when he comes out of shed!

 

[DanRC30]

Stephanie,
I need to learn how to take pics like you do of your animals!

 

[dragonlvr64]

Cindy, I like your Pastel. He's got an attractive pattern and some nice blushing. Post more pics when he comes out of shed!

We love him, he is just awesome! He is a monster when it comes time to eat! Very hard striker!
The female normal is so great, she does not act like a typical ball. She will not coil in on herself at all for any reason. She is always out moving around. No fear of anything.

 

[Classic Dum's]

one more thing i received emails about aperntly there was some guy(since denise is female i dont understand why anyone cares what some guy says) walking around at martys show telling people denise was giving free tables to vendors who didnt do martys show and only did hers, this is a miss understanding, for the last couple yrs denise has done a "vendor apreciation" show in june, and what that is is she gives a free table to all her regular vendors to say thank you for supporting the show, this is nothing new and its not based on whos show u do or dont do, its based on being a regular vendor at her show and nothing more, after receiving the emails i spoke to denise and the regulaR vendors who did martys show will still be getting there free table

there again her n i dissagree i dont think she should be given tablke and rewarding people who are supporting direct competitors of hers that r so close, but its her show

and again
i would like to invite everyone to join us at the next hamburg show feb 27th http://hamburgreptileshow.com/ and while there, anyone who thinks im alone in the way i feel about how marty has handled things please aproach n speak to any of the vendors that were not present at martys show, your welcome to aproach me and ill point you in there direction. I assure you everyone(lets say 95% incase theres anyone new) that will b in hamburg on the 27th was invited to martys show, im sure there was a couple that had other obligations but i assure u if you ask the majority will say the same things i have, there disgusted with how marty has handled this, i may be the only one posting here but i am far from the only one sharing these feelings

 

[cursedj]

Cool pythons Cindy.....You should have picked something up off of my table too!....lol.