CMG Reptiles Inquiry

[Raaarj2]

Just wondering looking to buy het pieds

 

[Bci Joe]

I was also looking for some info on them, thinking about het for albino colombian boas... thanks
Joe Rollo

 

[The BoidSmith]

Joe,

I was curious myself, and even made an offer on the "black-headed ball" that they did not accept. They have been posting some interesting snakes. Here is one of their most recent ads:

GAURANTEED *GRAVID* GIRLS JUST IMPORTED
VIRGINIA
Posted by (Contact Me!) on December 09, 2003 at 00:35:41
Registered PetHobbyist User since 2003-07-01



I HAVE A FEW GRAVID FEMALES THAT JUST CAME IN A FEW DAYS AGO AND ARE GAURANTEED TO BE GRAVID. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT BRED THEM. COULD BE NORMALS OR COULD BE SOMETHING SPECIAL. IM OPEN ON OFFERS ON THESE BUT NOT DESPRATE TO DUMP THEM CONSIDERING ALL THE WORK IS DONE ITS JUST A WAITING GAME TO SEE WHAT POPS OUT. PLEASE ONLY SERIOUS OFFERS. AND IM ONLY OPEN TO BALL TRADES

Regards.

 

[A Select Few]

When ever buying any hets....

My advice when buying animals (especially hets) from anyone would be to get the animals info such as who originially produced them and follow up from there. I'd also get a written moneyback guarantee on any 100% hets stating that if they don't produce in 2 consecutive breedings that you would get your money back. I've even went as far as requesting either a picture of them with the animal or a copy of thier drivers license.

This way you have some ammo besides and e-mail address if you ever have to follow up on a bad deal.

Paul Jarosh
A Select Few Reptiles
Manassas Va

 

[CMGREPTILES]

Just to clear up confusion i always give a money back gaurantee on all my 100% hets after 2 consecutive breedings. I will always offer whatever i need to make sure anyone i deal with is satisfied with the hets they get from me. If i buy hets from other people to resell or to trade i make sure i deal with reputable people who stand behind there word as much as i do. As far as the specialty balls i get imported they are first choice animals with alot of potential. Im not a big risk taker and am not to concerned with chasing for the next new morph but some of the animals i do get in could very well be a good start to that. The blackhead i have is a really weird animal and if proven to be genetic it is worth more than the babies it would produce and the blackhead babies have sold for 25 k so any offers on her would have to be worth it to me to get rid of her instead of keeping her and working with her myself. Ive been criticized a few times for selling so many animals often but this is a buisness for me so therefore im selling as much as i can and making as much money as i can. now that doesnt mean im going to misrepresent animals and sell junk and if there is a problem with any animals which happens from time to time than i refund the money and get the animals back. Like in any buisness when dealing with the public, you cant make everyone happy but i try to do what i can to sell quality animals and at good prices. thanks alot and to everyone Happy Holidays

Chris
CMG REPTILES

 

[Raaarj2]

That's awesome and i'm glad you answered on the fourm for yourself Thanks

 

[rmontez]

This guy is a fool...

He is selling albino balls that I produced last year. The pictures he posted about his HIGH HIGH HIGH HIGH GIRL belong to me. I bred the snakes, I hatched the eggs, I did not sell them to him and by now they should be about 700 grams.. This guy is a fraud. Would you want to buy hets from someone who is using other peoples pictures to sell animals he doesn't own?? Good Luck if you buy hets from him...

 

[CMGREPTILES]

FIRST OF ALL YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT AND RESEARCH SOME AND FIND OUT HOW I GOT THOSE PICS AND THE ANIMALS AND THE HETS. MAYBE FROM THE SAME GUY YOU DEAL WITH THAT I ALSO DO ALOT OF BUISNESS WITH AND CONSIDER A PARTNER. YEA FIGURE IT OUT AND WHEN YOU DO GET BACK TO ME. I CANT STAND WHEN PEOPLE JUMP BEFORE THEY LOOK AND ARE SO QUICK TO TRY AND BASH SOMEBODIES REPUTATION WHEN THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF I DONT HAVE THE ANIMALS THEN WHY ARE THEY AT MY HOUSE AND WHY WERE THEY ON MY TABLES THIS PAST WEEKEND AT THE NO. VA . REPTILES EXPO. COME UP WITH A GOOD ANSWER FOR THAT ONE AND YOU GOT ME OTHERWISE NEXT TIME YOU HAVE A CONFLICT HANDLE IT AMONGST YOURSELVES BEFORE YOU GO TRASHING SOMEBODIES NAME ON USELESS ACCUSATIONS
THANKS ALOT FOR THE USELESS DRAMA

CHRIS
CMG REPTILES

 

[rmontez]

I am already tired of this and you...

Your second picture of the albino looks nothing like the first picture of albino. Looks pretty faded out to me, not HIGH HIGH HIGH HIGH CONTRAST as you originally said. Also this albino is not N.E.R.D. line as you stated in your post, these animals were produced from hets from Ralph Davis which I bought directly from him so how can you say they are N.E.R.D. line albinos. You used pictures I took, pictures I own, and now you are the one who is trying to back track...

You tried to sell a High High High High Contrast albino when all you have is faded albino. You were trying to make the sale from using pictures that were only a few months old. Everyone knows albinos fade out. If you would have posted your own picture from the begining this would not have been a problem

Rene Montez

 

[CMGREPTILES]

FIRST OF ALL THAT IS THE FIRST TIME I POSTED THAT AD WITH THOSE PICS AND THE ONLY REASON I DID WAS BECAUSE I DELETED OFF DISK THE ONES I HAD UP THERE. IF ANTONE LOOKS AT K.S THAY WILL TELL YOU ABOUT THE PICS I HAD UP THERE AND THOSE WERE PICS TAKEN AT MY HOUSE. AND SHE IS VERY HIGH CONTRAST BUT I CANT TAKE GOOD PICS SO CHECK YOURSELF FIRST. AND ASK YOUR BUDDY TO VERIFY WHAT IM SAYING AND YOU KNOW WHO IM TALKING ABOUT. YOU KNOW THE DEAL AND YOUR USELESS ACCUSATIONS HOLD NO WATER AT ALL SO THANKS ALOT FOR YOUR CRAP BUT GO HEAD HUNTING FOR SOMEONE WHO IS SCAMMING AND QUIT GOING AFTER ME WITH THIS NON SENCE
CHRIS
CMG REPTILES

 

[rmontez]

must be my fault then....

I guess I am the on who made the mistake! I am the one who is using other peoples pictures! I am the one saying they are from a breeders line who they are not from! once again...

YOUR SECOND PICTURE LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THE FIRST!!!!

 

[CMGREPTILES]

YOUR OUT OF YOUR MIND THAT IS THE SAME ANIMAL. LOOK AT MARKINGS OR SOMETHING. IM NOT A DAMN PHOTOGRAPHER AND I APOLIGIZE FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART TO THE PUBLIC AND YOU HEARD IT FIRST HERE ON FAUNA,---CMG REPTILES CANT TAKE PICTURES WORTH A DAMN---- THERE ARE YOU HAPPY. THERE IS NO ANIMAL BEING MISREPRESENTED YOUR FULL OF CRAP AND IF PEOPLE BUY INTO YOUR CRAP THEN I DONT WANT THERE BUISNESS ANYWAY BUT THANKS AND YOU HAVE YOURSELF A WONDERFUL HOLIDAYS AND HOPE YOU FIND WHAT YOUR LOOKING FOR IN LIFE WITH YOUR BASHING TACTICS

CHRIS
CMG REPTILES

 

[Rob @ RK Reptiles]

I will say this, in the first ad the HIGH HIGH ad the snake on the left in the middle pic (the clear bright good picture) is the same as the animal in the pic on the left (single blurry picture). But that animal is not the same animal that is in the new pictures that were posted in the ad where you are supposedly calling out Rene.

 

[CMGREPTILES]

Ok what would you like for me to do to prove this? Would you like me to take a pic of the animal on a newspaper dated today? Would that help. Also i have told rene to contact me on the phone to handle this and he refuses. Maybe because he relizes hes full of crap and jumped into something he didnt know all the details? i dont know but thats my guess. And also why would i sell hets with a 100% money back with compinsation gaurantee if they were not real. Anyone who was at the VA show this weekend saw the high end animals on my 6 tables. As well as the albino in question and some pastels and other high end animals. Another thing if those pics were stolen then how the hell did i steal them. He never posted those pics for me to steal. And as much animals i sell through kingsnake why the hell would i post something i dont have like that?? Doesnt ad up. All ive seen is useless accusations. All this is is somebody trying to ruin my reputation. Im not going to sit here and lie and say i have never had a problem with customers because when dealing with the public you will but i have always stood behind my animals more than the average people so i take great offense when someone tries to bad mouth me but thats ok there will always be an idiot in the bunch. If you know rene personally then contact him and ask him if he knows where i got those pics from. if they were in fact stolen.

CHRIS
CMG REPTILES

 

[ALLTHINGSREPTIL]

Here we go again

This is nothing less than rediculous. I have bought hets directly form C.M.G. and they have proved out everytime. I have also been to there facility and seen first hand the animals they have. I would not think twice about any animals they have posted. So whoever this Rene is Why dont you go after the real scam artists out there instead of trying to ruin the names of honest businesses.
Sincerely
John Mcallister



"THERE WILL ALWAYS BE ONE TO RUIN IT FOR EVERYONE"

 

[The BoidSmith]

I will say this, in the first ad the HIGH HIGH ad the snake on the left in the middle pic (the clear bright good picture) is the same as the animal in the pic on the left (single blurry picture). But that animal is not the same animal that is in the new pictures that were posted in the ad where you are supposedly calling out Rene.

Could someone point me to those pictures?

Thanks.

 

[rmontez]

whoever I am???

what a butt kisser here are the two pictures you are saying are the same snake, I don't question if they are the same snake or not, what I am saying is you are using pictures of a young very high contrast albino to try and sell an albino that has faded out. Everyone says the second picture you posted is cleary not the same in contrast as the original post you made. Judge for yoursleves, here are the pictures.

this is the picture from the original post.

http://www.frontiernet.net/~rmontez/twins.jpg

this is the second post picture.

http://www.frontiernet.net/~rmontez/fraud6.jpg

can you all not clearly see the difference in the representation of the albino. Still I would like to know how Chris came about these being N.E.R.D. line albinos or now VPI/Bell line albinos??

John Mcallister if you don't see a difference in the pictures then you buy the one he is listing as HIGH CONTRAST and see how you feel when you open the box and see a faded albino...

guess I don't know how to post pics here but you can click on the links to see the pictures.

Rene Montez

 

[The BoidSmith]

Rene,

The animal in the right on the first picture, is the same animal in the second picture. Yes, it has faded as it usually happens in most adult albinos (boas included) when compared to a baby. Have you ever seen the picture of an adult albino that maintained the same color intensity as it had as a baby? In more than one ocassion I have seen well known breeders sell those high contrast albino babies as such: "high contrast albinos". I might be wrong, but I always understood it referred more to the clearly defined areas of white and yellow, and not to the intensity of the yellow.

Regards.

 

[Odd Ball Exotics]

This is about useing pictures without permission and trying to pass something off for what it's not (A NERD line...not what it acctually is).

Would it have been so hard of CMG to ask his "friend" where he got the pictures so that he could have asked the person that took them if he could have his permission to use them?

And what I cant understand is why CMG is calling it a NERD line....dont they know where their animals come from? I could tell you the bloodline of my animals as far back as the breeder could tell me. (Who they got the parents from at the very least!)

In my eyes CMG lacks common sense in not asking permission to use the pictures, and also lack common sense in not asking where his animals came from.

I dont know if he's outwardly trying to scam anyone, but I'm not sure if I would buy from someone that doesn't know where his stock came from.

 

[The BoidSmith]

This is about useing pictures without permission and trying to pass something off for what it's not (A NERD line...not what it acctually is).

He used pictures of an animal he currently owns without permission of a previous owner. What we oftentimes see is exactly the opposite, people using pictures of snakes they don't actually own.

Why he wanted to pass the snake as NERD's is up to him to explain. Why NERD instead of Ralph Davis? Beats me! Either one has enough of a reputation of high quality animals to make that snake more saleable.

Would it have been so hard of CMG to ask his "friend" where he got the pictures so that he could have asked the person that took them if he could have his permission to use them?

It's Chris that needs to answer this. Maybe his friend didn't even tell him the pictures were not his in the first place.

Kindly.