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Bad Guy Jeff and Christina Wise (Wise Reptiles) Stole Money from Benefit Auctions for Maggie

SamanthaJane13 said:
Many of you know that in my spare time, I not only belong to several other herp forums, but I also post news stories for a crime forum.

I'm a Supreme Member of TruTV's crime library forum-formerly CourtTV.

Since this whole train wreck is taking on a life of it's own on the internet, I posted a thread on their Other Hot Stories board.

http://boards.library.trutv.com/showthread.php?p=9272723#post9272723

This forum is over 8,000 members string, and if they can't generate outrage, NOBODY CAN!

They may also have some good ideas for how to deal with this in the legal arena.

If so, I'll be bringing those posts here.

With hundreds of lurkers visiting the crime forums everyday to follow their favorite case, this will help get the word out about our forum criminals...INTERNET-WIDE.
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Thanks Donna!!:thumbsup:
 
but they also know what we are doing against them.... Id rather them sweat about it.... and the next knock on the door.
 
I would be surprised by this...

but I check this forum everyday.

One thing I have learned in all my businesses is that it really is a small world. These two will get theirs when they don't expect it, hopefully sooner rather than later.

Jeff
 
R. Eventide said:
Do we know for a fact that these two have kids...or is this something else they've come up with over the past few months to garner sympathy? (My apologies if it's been proven; my brain is overflowing.)
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They do indeed have 4 children....though, if their wedding date has any bearing on why Daddy is....only one of them (their youngest son) is Jeff's kid.
 
R. Eventide said:
Do we know for a fact that these two have kids...or is this something else they've come up with over the past few months to garner sympathy? (My apologies if it's been proven; my brain is overflowing.)

Also, I highly doubt any of their excuses/stories--knee trouble, prescription meds, drugs, electric bills, funeral/hotel costs, etc.--are actually true. And even if they are, I highly doubt they used the stolen money for that stuff (except maybe drugs). People like this aren't going to spend money on things they should; they are going to spend it on anything and everything they don't need. In this case, that would be computer software and reptiles, at the very least (and I'm sure there's more).
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I have heard plenty of crying and yelling in the back ground the many times I was on the phone with Christina and I'm pretty sure it wasn't Jeff.
 
"Operating Intoxicated/Impaired/Controlled Substance - 3rd" 2007

Definitely fits the description, doesn't it?
 
Oh the police are going to just LOVE dealing with him again....


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Sentence 3[/FONT][FONT=Courier New, Courier, mono][/FONT]
Offense:​
Police Officer - Assault/Resist/Obstruct - Attempt
Minimum Sentence:​
MCL#:​
750.81D1
Maximum Sentence:​
2 years 0 months
Court File#:​
03191868-FH
Date of Offense:​
06/29/2003
County:​
Oakland
Date of Sentence:​
01/06/2004
Conviction Type:​
Plea
Discharge Date:​
01/25/2006
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Discharge Reason:​
Offender Discharge
 
Heres his info i got on my forum
 

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Seems he has a number of different ways of using his name:


Jeffery Allan Wise
Jeffery Mr Wise
Jeffery A Wise
Jeffery M Wise
and 5 moreJeffery Wise
Jeffrey A Wise
Jeffrey Wise
J Wise
Jeffrey Weiss 34 Brandon Twp, MI
Clarkston, MI
Grand Blanc, MI
Oak Park, MI
Pontiac, MI
Saginaw, MI
Southfield, MI
Waterford, MI
Columbus, IN Christina Wise
Deborah Sue Wise
Mark Lee Wise
 
WoW. I am at work so just skimming over the information.

DanD I am so sorry you had to take a wasted trip and wasn't able to get a result. But I would like to make sure you stay safe... we don't need you getting in a car wreck because you are mad and can't focus on the road.

I hope that this gets resolved swiftly and firmly to the fullest extent of the law. There is no excuse for this.

Maggie, I can not express how sorry I am that you are having to live through this nightmare.
 
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