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Bad Guy Jeff and Christina Wise (Wise Reptiles) Stole Money from Benefit Auctions for Maggie

Another reply from WZZM 13 News
From: WZZM13 Com News To: Cindy McDannell Show All

Cc:
Ms. McDannell:
I have taken a number of calls tonight about this couple. The Flint and Grand Blanc areas are another television market here in Michigan. I'm suggesting you, and the others, contact our news partner in that television market- WJRT TV, ABC 12.
Good luck to you,
Jessica P.
WZZM 13 News
 
why dont we all pick 1 local news station and all mass call, i bet you we would get it on the news if we did that.
 
Donna Moorhouse, I understand what you are doing, and why you are doing it. I read where you said you would make sure that the information with paypal addresses and stuff was posted on every page. However, I, Like most people who frequent the BOI have my preferences set to 40 posts per page, so your posts are seen 5 pages on this last page alone.We set our preferences so that we don't have to click a new page every few posts. What you are doing is not a bad thing, but as a reader I am getting annoyed, and I am finding myself ignoring the emails that let me know new posts have been made. I know there are those that will say that if I don't like it I don't have to read. I agree, but feel that I am probably not the only one who will stop reading.
 
The amount of guests visiting this thread has been amazing. With all the threads in the past, I don't believe anything has ever come as close to the attention this thread has gained in such a short time.
 
DaveyFig said:
Donna Moorhouse, I understand what you are doing, and why you are doing it. I read where you said you would make sure that the information with paypal addresses and stuff was posted on every page. However, I, Like most people who frequent the BOI have my preferences set to 40 posts per page, so your posts are seen 5 pages on this last page alone.We set our preferences so that we don't have to click a new page every few posts. What you are doing is not a bad thing, but as a reader I am getting annoyed, and I am finding myself ignoring the emails that let me know new posts have been made. I know there are those that will say that if I don't like it I don't have to read. I agree, but feel that I am probably not the only one who will stop reading.
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It's funny-an other member suggested that I set the pages to 10 so I get every page-because I was set at 40 before.

Just goes to show you can't please EVERYONE.
 
dragonlvr64 said:
contact our news partner in that television market- WJRT TV, ABC 12.
Good luck to you,
Jessica P.
WZZM 13 News
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**Everyone that bid on an item and won**

I am working on a hunch and I dont want to tip my hand. So if you won an auction PM me... I have a few questions to ask.
 
Herpster said:
Look at what she had the balls to do: my paypal is now frozen:
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Hey Maggie, maybe this means that they are getting really desperate for money sources. Maybe it's an indication that all the publicity they paid for with that $3,500 cash advance to themselves is making it nearly impossible for them to now scrounge even gas money to Texas (or the Canadian border). Let's hope it's an indication that the days of scamming have come to a screeching halt.

!!!!!!!!!!!!GO ALL YOU FAUNA AVENGERS!!!!!!!!!
 
Herpster said:
Look at what she had the balls to do: my paypal is now frozen:

Hello Charles Kimmel,

Your sender asked his or her bank to reverse the payment for the following
transaction:


Sender’s name: Christina Horn
Sender’s email: [email protected]
Transaction ID: 5WJ38939NU842383U

Transaction date: Apr 9, 2010
Transaction amount: $800.00 USD
Your transaction ID: 9D386605NX8357244
Case number: PP-000-971-749-747


We need additional information from you within the next 7 days. Please log
in to your PayPal account and go to the Resolution Center to see the
details of this case. There, you can enter any information regarding this
case that will help us fight the reversal on your behalf.

Thanks,

PayPal
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SO you can not use the funds that all these people have sent you?

I am not a happy camper.. Maggie, I am so sorry... These two deserve whatever they get.... no mercy...... WTF! How can people be this.... ...........I am going to just chill for a bit
 
Has anyone contacted her bank and complained about her making a fraudulant check? The bank may want to know if she's falsifying checks with their info on them.
 
This... This is the worst thing I have ever seen in the reptile community... I have seen things bad too.. I have seen things that have not been made public... I have seen things that make me want to just say screw this hobby....

This here is sick.....twisted..... and any other word I can think of that I can not type here...

I vend shows with Dave... To tell you the truth the only shows I vend is with Dave... I will be talking with Dave to see about a few things that we can do..

I have a lot going on... But this is just WOW... dave be prepared at Taylor bro.. I have some ideas to help Maggie....
 
Herpster said:
Hello Charles Kimmel,

Your sender asked his or her bank to reverse the payment for the following
transaction:


Sender’s name: Christina Horn
Sender’s email: [email protected]
Transaction ID: 5WJ38939NU842383U

Transaction date: Apr 9, 2010
Transaction amount: $800.00 USD
Your transaction ID: 9D386605NX8357244
Case number: PP-000-971-749-747
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I was trying to figure out how she managed this... It's because it's not a paypal dispute, she went through her bank to have the funds reversed.

Does anyone know what bank she uses? Is it the same one that she used for the fake check? Personally, I would file a dispute with paypal, but also try calling the bank where the reversal is originating from.
 
cat snake said:
Hey Maggie, maybe this means that they are getting really desperate for money sources. Maybe it's an indication that all the publicity they paid for with that $3,500 cash advance to themselves is making it nearly impossible for them to now scrounge even gas money to Texas (or the Canadian border). Let's hope it's an indication that the days of scamming have come to a screeching halt.

!!!!!!!!!!!!GO ALL YOU FAUNA AVENGERS!!!!!!!!!
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What they are doing is all about retaliation. When they decided to scam, they had no idea that this would happen. They really have no idea how stupid stealing that money was. The long term affect is going to cost them a lot more then whatever they stole here. It's very clear that neither Mr. or Mrs. Wise is very intelligent. I would be surprised if either of them had an IQ higher then 80. Their brains don't have the capacity to see the long term affects of anything, and they really don't have the brain power to understand.

People like this are usually lazy, they want to cheat, and scam wherever they can. This way they don't have to actually go out and get a job like most of society who wants to be a contributing member. Lie, cheat, steal, that is their motto.

Another thing they don't seem to understand is that potential employers now do internet searches on people to see if they can find bad things about them. They have really hurt themselves with what they have done here. I even said potential employers just in case they actually ever went out and looked for a job.

When it's all said and done, they will wish they had never done this. So, Mr. and Mrs. Wise, I hope it was worth it.
 
brd7666 said:
What they are doing is all about retaliation. When they decided to scam, they had no idea that this would happen. They really have no idea how stupid stealing that money was. The long term affect is going to cost them a lot more then whatever they stole here. It's very clear that neither Mr. or Mrs. Wise is very intelligent. I would be surprised if either of them had an IQ higher then 80. Their brains don't have the capacity to see the long term affects of anything, and they really don't have the brain power to understand.

People like this are usually lazy, they want to cheat, and scam wherever they can. This way they don't have to actually go out and get a job like most of society who wants to be a contributing member. Lie, cheat, steal, that is their motto.

Another thing they don't seem to understand is that potential employers now do internet searches on people to see if they can find bad things about them. They have really hurt themselves with what they have done here. I even said potential employers just in case they actually ever went out and looked for a job.

When it's all said and done, they will wish they had never done this. So, Mr. and Mrs. Wise, I hope it was worth it.
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Well said!! :yesnod:
 
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