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maddyem 05-29-2017 08:01 PM

What subspecies of milk snake is this?
 
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So this is my milk snake Draco, I am unsure of his age but I got him less than a year ago when he was about a foot long. I'm really curious as to what kind he is, I've done some research but I don't feel comfortable trusting the internet. He drinks a lot of water and burrows in his bedding, if that could say anything to his natural habitat. Two of the pictures I included do show his underside- however helpful that may be. Thank you!!

dieselfan 06-04-2017 04:57 PM

Looks like a nelsons. However it's almost impossible to know for sure without lineage info from the breeder

brianm616 07-06-2017 01:15 PM

Looks to be a standard Sinaloan/Nelson's cross.

Herpetology 88 07-22-2017 03:30 PM

Definitely not a cross as one user stated. Looks to be a Nelson's milk snake, as the initial reply said.

brianm616 07-22-2017 04:00 PM

Nope. Nelson's have an open neck ring. Sinaloans have a closed neck ring. It's ok though, people have been mixing the two subspecies for 20 years. Some now look more like either parent subspecies.

Herpetology 88 07-22-2017 04:47 PM

Alright, thanks. I have never heard of neck ring patterns being used to distinguish snakes, so I suppose I learned something.

Herpetology 88 07-22-2017 04:51 PM

Well, distinguish milk and king snakes at least.

brianm616 07-22-2017 04:51 PM

It's just one of a few ways to identify specimens found in the wild, but this is mostly academic nowadays since there is no longer any pure lines of nelsoni in the hobby and three (albeit one is somewhat questionable) lines of sinaloae in the hobby.

Herpetology 88 07-22-2017 05:19 PM

Interesting to know.

Pituophis_ 09-04-2017 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by brianm616 (Post 2015952)
Nope. Nelson's have an open neck ring. Sinaloans have a closed neck ring. It's ok though, people have been mixing the two subspecies for 20 years. Some now look more like either parent subspecies.

Was told Cosala milks sometimes will have an open neck ring.
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