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AK907 01-06-2011 08:08 PM

Corn morph... Oh Kevin...
 
Traded a yearling western hognose for these two 4ft male corns today. I was told the first was a blood red and the second was a a sunglow. Sorry about my crappy photography. The "sunglow" appears to be A LOT whiter in my pictures because its overexposed (I can't take pics like RidgeTop), but he still looks an aweful lot like a normal amel to me. What do yall think? Blood Red? Sunglow? Normal Amel? Thanks!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...rist/001-6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...rist/002-4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...rist/005-4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...rist/013-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...rist/009-4.jpg

Kalie 01-06-2011 09:38 PM

The bloodred does seem to be a blood to me, but I haven't got much experience with them, so I can't be too sure about that.

The other one I think is a normal amel. Too much white around the saddles to be a sunglow. Still a beautifull guy though :)

AK907 01-06-2011 10:19 PM

Yeah, I was thinking the same. Either way both of them are the mellowest corns I've ever handled. They act more like ball pythons and just hang out. I may pair him up with a female amel I have this spring and see what happens. Another of him, underexposed this time...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...rist/014-3.jpg

brianm616 01-06-2011 10:26 PM

i think it's possible that the amel may have been the product of two sunglows; but, since sunglow is a line bred trait and not a true morph, sometimes the offspring have more visible saddle borders than either of the parents.

as for that blood, i have a female that looks just like yours. she's the biggest spaz i've ever owned; musking and thrashing for a minimum of three minutes every time i hold her.

AK907 01-06-2011 10:38 PM

That sounds like the amel I mentioned above. I try to avoid holding her because of that reason. I don't wanna stress her out any more than necessary. I've got enough other snakes that tollerate handling.

AbsoluteApril 01-06-2011 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianm616 (Post 1180892)
i think it's possible that the amel may have been the product of two sunglows; but, since sunglow is a line bred trait and not a true morph, sometimes the offspring have more visible saddle borders than either of the parents.

:iagree:

Both of them are very nice, I like that bloodred!

garweft 01-07-2011 09:34 AM

A belly shot on the first one would help, but to me it doesn't looked like a bloodred at all.

AK907 01-07-2011 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garweft (Post 1181106)
A belly shot on the first one would help, but to me it doesn't looked like a bloodred at all.

Fair enough. Regardless of morph/phase, these two are awesome.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...rist/001-7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...rist/002-5.jpg

Southern Wolf 01-07-2011 03:26 PM

IMO the top is an Okeetee....

The second one is an amel. Sunglows have no white.

For compairson purposes.....

Here is one of my okeetee's
http://www.ridgetopreptiles.com/RTR/...F.CS.05.04.jpg

And one of my sunglow mots
http://www.ridgetopreptiles.com/RTR/...M.CS.07.10.jpg

And one of my Diffused (aka bloodred)
http://www.ridgetopreptiles.com/RTR/...M.CS.05.36.jpg

The diffused trait will take away the checkers on the belly and you will be left with a clean white belly. Your top one is NOT a diffused (aka bloodred).

AK907 01-07-2011 03:50 PM

Cool. I thought Okeetee too, but it doesn't have the super broad saddle bands or copper background like my other okeetee and reverse okeetee. Thats why I was confused. Probably just a mutt I guess. I'm not ready for fancy breeding and genetics like yall, but I'd like to give corns a try this spring. If I only produce a clutch or two of healthy normals or mutts that brings joy to someone, I will be satisfied.


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