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07-02-2012, 04:01 PM

You can disagree all you want facts are facts. They wanted federal government to do much more than watch over states. The U.S. could have never been a world player if the federal government was just to loosely watch what the states were doing. A prime example of this is when separate states sent ambassadors to France and Napoleon bluntly told them that he wanted an ambassador from the United States, not Virginia, Mass, etc. More examples are that the government had no way to levy taxes, call on troops, enforce interstate commerce, and essentially deal with anything on a federal level. Over time the people recognized the importance or necessity of having government regulate certain aspects of their lives. Think about this, if it wasn't for regulation your kids would be playing with toys coated in lead paint from China. So to think that the founding fathers wouldn't agree with any of this let alone endorse it means they were either idiotic or ignorant. I'm not willing to accept that. They set the system up for us citizens to change it, modify it, and adapt to the social memes that came over time.

As for Obamacare, you stated that it was making the government an insurance provider. Even if that were the truth, which it's not, you just stated that Medicaid already makes the government an insurance provider. With that logic, your problem should be with the government itself, not with Obamacare.

Our government is in debt, most are. That doesn't have anything to do with power or us being around for long. The United State's military is over 10 years ahead of everyone else in the world, so traditional threats are non existent. The U.S. has the highest GDP. (Just food for thought, the only reason the U.S became the dominant economic power in the world was because they were the only free market economy standing after WWII. As the other markets caught up, Americas prosperity began to even out again.) So, if there's a reason the U.S. won't be around for long, it will be because it didn't take care of the health of it's own people, not because of over taxation and debt.

07-02-2012, 04:01 PM	#28
Lestathim	You can disagree all you want facts are facts. They wanted federal government to do much more than watch over states. The U.S. could have never been a world player if the federal government was just to loosely watch what the states were doing. A prime example of this is when separate states sent ambassadors to France and Napoleon bluntly told them that he wanted an ambassador from the United States, not Virginia, Mass, etc. More examples are that the government had no way to levy taxes, call on troops, enforce interstate commerce, and essentially deal with anything on a federal level. Over time the people recognized the importance or necessity of having government regulate certain aspects of their lives. Think about this, if it wasn't for regulation your kids would be playing with toys coated in lead paint from China. So to think that the founding fathers wouldn't agree with any of this let alone endorse it means they were either idiotic or ignorant. I'm not willing to accept that. They set the system up for us citizens to change it, modify it, and adapt to the social memes that came over time. As for Obamacare, you stated that it was making the government an insurance provider. Even if that were the truth, which it's not, you just stated that Medicaid already makes the government an insurance provider. With that logic, your problem should be with the government itself, not with Obamacare. Our government is in debt, most are. That doesn't have anything to do with power or us being around for long. The United State's military is over 10 years ahead of everyone else in the world, so traditional threats are non existent. The U.S. has the highest GDP. (Just food for thought, the only reason the U.S became the dominant economic power in the world was because they were the only free market economy standing after WWII. As the other markets caught up, Americas prosperity began to even out again.) So, if there's a reason the U.S. won't be around for long, it will be because it didn't take care of the health of it's own people, not because of over taxation and debt.