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Tom Crutchfield: Greatest Reptile Dealer of All Time?

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Burst some bubbles...

I would like to share my last two deals I did with Crutchfield in 1987. For a very brief period I bought wholesale and would resell to local petshops. I ordered from a variety of sources and decided to give Tom a try. Most of the lizards I received were on deaths door. I decided that I wouldn't deal with him again. then a few months later he was offering baby King Cobras guarenteed to be feeding on pinkies. I traded him a breeding pair of Queensland Carpet Pythons for one of these snakes. The snake was shipped in a deli cup surrounded by newspaper packed in a styrofoam box! :no_evil01 The snake refused to eat even when I offered snakes and lizards. It died in 10 days. That was the last time I dealt with Tom for more than one reason. :no01:
 
TIM, it just seems to make sense to me that

if you encountered a problem with a shipper regardless of who he was, and the animals arrived at "deaths door" how do you continue to do business with that person before you resolve your prior experiences with that same dealer.
I am not attempting to make excuses for Tom, but you had choices to make and these were based on your decisions knowing full well that you already experienced some problems .
 
Bubble wand magic !

The last shipment I recieved from Tom, gosh, about 18 years ago, was of a group of south american vine snakes that were in perfect condition, bred consistently for the next 5 years, and ate like crazy...no worms, do deaths...nothing. Prior to that, all of the animals that I had gotten from Herpetofauna were in good condition, and I still see a pair of pythons purchased a waaaaaaaay long time ago over at a friend's house...all doing just fine !
Just like life in general...good and bad.

greg
 
Tim,

I don't think IATA, nor airlines had regs in 1987 that venomous reptiles had to be shipped in wooden boxes. However, I'm not sure. Besides that, he saved you a $25.00 box fee! LOL!
 
Anyone heard of 2nd chance?

I thought I would give him a second chance. I thought wrong. My mistake.
 
I recognize the three people in the pic already mentioned, I also see Mike Ellard from Burgundy Reptiles.
Joe Fauci
Ray V. Nostrand
Wayne Hill
Mike Ellard
Do not know guy in glasses, or kid at the front.......of long hair dude in the back...???? I will get it though..give me a few :)
 
Just so you know, I respect anyone who posts on this subject that disagrees with my theories or wants to tell about a bad deal with Tom. As long as you are civil, I will not and have not bashed anyone who posts here.
 
I recognize the three people in the pic already mentioned, I also see Mike Ellard from Burgundy Reptiles.
Joe Fauci
Ray V. Nostrand
Wayne Hill
Mike Ellard
Do not know guy in glasses, or kid at the front.......of long hair dude in the back...???? I will get it though..give me a few
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The BOI will be SHOCKED when someone reveals who the kid in the front is!!!
 
2 questions

i have two questions
Being newer to the herp industry i do not fully understand or think its clear, is Tom still in the usa is he a free man and does he deal with reptiles any more. Also does anyone know if tom has seen these threads im shure hed like to if he hasent.
Also anyone who has old wholesale price list for Mammals and Reptiles please contact me off list [email protected] or im me at herpboy1122 please let me know if you have old list im very intrested in theme thanks chris Especially ones you can email that are on comp scanned or email Thanks chris godino
 
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The BOI will be SHOCKED when someone reveals who the kid in the front is!!!
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Where and when was that photo taken, do you know? Cause the "kid" in the front looks like a guy I went to high school with and he is a prominent member of the BOI.
 
Chris,

If memory serves me right (don't want to go back and read the whole thread) it was stated earlier in this thread that he was already doing some shows.

Regards.
 
I wish I was still as skinny as "the kid".

Where and when was that photo taken, do you know? Cause the "kid" in the front looks like a guy I went to high school with and he is a prominent member of the BOI.
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He is now well known and talked about on the BOI.
 
I can't hardly believe it! Maybe he was entrapped and screwed by Wildlife??? I would like to know a lot more. He is a legend and a very, very kind man.
 
wow!

Why would anyone , especially Don who, I happen to see yearly at Daytona get himself mixed up in this kind of a situation. The penalties are harsh, and I dont relish being in his shoes. You would think that he would have been smart enough not to jeapordize his entire business , not to mention the enormous burden on his family.
 
Don hamper

This is horrible FW are cracking down all over don was a good guy and its a bummer something like this had to happen :crap:
 
This is a perfect example

of what the haters of the herp industry relish. To make matters worse, for those of you who may know Don, I dont think prison life is going to be condusive to a man of that age, size, etc. He is not a stupid person, so I am mistified that he would endanger himself in this kind of an escapade after being in the business this long. Eventually these things catch up to you. In todays market , you never know whom you are dealing with.
 
I heard that a lot of people got caught in that sting...

with cb animals, many were albinos and other morphs. Some didn't realize it applied to cb or morphs as well (it SHOULDN'T!). At least one person I know had to pay a fine for selling licorice stick black rat snakes. I don't know if that was the case with Don or not.
 
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