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Originally Posted by ZX11
But, the reason I speak more about Harleys is because every Harley owner tosses the pipes first in favor of the loud junk.
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Right there is your problem. NOT all Harley owners do that. I happen to still have the stock pipes on my Ultra. I do plan on replacing them but with a different set of Harley pipes. And I am not doing it for the sound but for the performance increase Screaming Eagle pipes give. FYI, I used to own a Honda CBR 600F3 so I have been on both sides of the fence.