opinions on lineage website for boa breeders

I have been talking to my brother-in-law who is a computer genius and is a master security specialist for a major banking corp.
We are thinking of setting up a web site to make available to people who are interested in having lineage info of other boa's on the market.

We are looking to set it up like the UKC or ADBA of the dog world.
This site would keep track of all boa's that are to be certified.Its not going to be just about pure lines.It will be a place to look up boa's that are being called this or that and come from him or her as some people state.
I personally like to have long lines of certain animals.I would also like proof of certain morphs that are questionable.
It will make sure your hets are hets,but only if the owner of the makers of the hets are in the data bank.
It will let you know that amount of bloodlines that are in your animal.It will show out crossed and pure lines also.
I dont have it pegged yet or the specifics,i'm just looking to see if people would like to know more about the boa they are buying and where it came from.

I believe this was attempted but never went any wheres.I think with all the discussions on genetics and blood lines it time to try again.

I personally do not want a boa breed by a brother and sister,and this will show who bred what to what and where those came from.
I think lineage is important to all critters and great to weed out health issues related to in-breeding which i think is done alot.I always see an ad for buy a pair and save.I ask about that pair and most of the time they are siblings,and going to a person who doesnt know siblings should not breed to each other in almost all cases.
I understand line breeding but its not brother and sister.

Thanks and cant wait to see how many think theres something to build on.Or not to build on.
Rich

it was attempted before (http://www.boaregistry.com/) back in 2001 or so but no one ever seemed to use it, so it's gone now.

There is a corn snake registry (http://herpregistry.com/acr/) although honestly I have corns and never bothered to registure them.

There is also the amazon tree boa registry (http://atbregistry.com/) which I have some of my animals on but again, laziness or whatever, I still haven't listed them all.

It's a good idea in theory, the problem (IMO) is getting enough people to buy in to the idea and actually use it enough to make it worthwhile. They tend to not get utilized.

As far as providing lineage, I try to get as much info as I can about the animals I buy, I ask for the parent info or at least an email from the original breeder to confirm they did in fact produce said animal. My jungles, I have the parent info & photos as well as partial grandparent info/breeder info I can trace back. It's a shame it's so hard to get information from people sometimes.

Also regarding in-breeding, it depends, I think as long as the breeder is honest about it I don't have a problem. I outcrossed one of my lines and plan to back cross it, I'll be upfront with any who are interested in those babies. If line breeding/in-breeding is popping up genetic issues then is needs to cease with those lines.

Thanks April.
I am going to look into that link.
At some point things change and maybe someone could get the boa community into keeping records of boa's.
There's a lot of deceit in the world and many people will use it to make money.
Lets talk the Jungle's.I personally have a hard time telling some jungles,especially the albino/sunglow ones.If we have a boa dna bank,that would help to prove some of the "hard to tell jungles" or the "possible jungles".The dna test for almost all animals is $30-$40.To me that would be worth knowing if its a true jungle by linking it to already proven jungles that are well known.And Lipstick,coral and others.
I'm not good at genetics and pretty sure a jungle cant be called a jungle by blood alone.But i would think that maybe with quality samples of blood taken from some of the originals will help.
This would also help to get established lines going and help keep them pure.Maybe i'm the only one who like pure lines.But i think the people who started the boa registry should have held on.

After looking and reading that,its not good enough proof to register a boa..Anyone could just lie about an animal.With dna attached to it,you cannot get away with much.
Even the ADBA has faults.Sorry,thats a dog registry.You can buy 2 dogs from a breeder with papers,have pups and ask for the papers for the pups and they send them.Then you can have some back yard bred dogs and use the papers to register those crappy pups to have them as "quality". there are people on there that dna record their dogs,but dont require the new owner of the pup to register that pup with dna.Just the paperwork.

I'm curious about the proof issues. Even if someone is in the data bank, that does not make their claim to having produced, let's say, a het, valid. If someone would lie to a potential customer about what they have, they might lie to a site as well.

I have heard that there is opportunity for fraud even in well known registries such as the AKC for dogs.
In addition, with rising government efforts to control reptile ownership, people might not be anxious to identify ownership.

Its a good idea though, in concept.

Very good point about both.
If someone registers the 2 parent boa's and breeds them to make hets, wouldn't the hets have an even slpit of chromosomes?Hence proving they came from the het makers.
The second one is a stumper.I would have to agree on that.Maybe that killed my theory
and attempt to try.
I would not want to register either.But at the same time,if they were illegal i wont be owning them! We cannot have the big lizards or pythons,no anaconda's either.So i dont own any.
I already had someone turn me in for have all the big boa's i have.They were hired to do thousands of $ work on my house and called my insurance co.
They didnt like hearing about them but they couldn't do anything since they were legal for now.

Originally Posted by allreptiles1966

I already had someone turn me in for have all the big boa's i have.They were hired to do thousands of $ work on my house and called my insurance co.
They didnt like hearing about them but they couldn't do anything since they were legal for now.

Off topic, I know, but you got lucky....
I know of a few people that got their homeowners insurance cancelled because of incidents like that. The reasons varied slightly - usually some form of increased liability (whether due to fire hazard from heat sources, or just housing "dangerous animals")

Originally Posted by allreptiles1966

If someone registers the 2 parent boa's and breeds them to make hets,

An ill intentioned seller could claim that the registered parents were the parents of boas he is trying to sell, even if that was not true.

They would need to dna all babies to prove they came from said parents in order to get them listed on the site.
A litter of 30 would be $900 that you could re coupe on the sales of a dna registered baby boa's.
I dont have it all worked out yet and might take quite awhile to make up a format.I'm just looking into the possibilities of being able to set up something to have boa's with standards.Crazy,maybe.Its cool we can trust some breeders and no doubt there are bad ones as seen in the boi.But for a new guy or gal that is looking to be a good breeder and have quality bred boa's,this might be good for them so they can sell their quality boa's and have proof they are as claimed.
Using someone like my favorite morph maker(Tom Burke) will set you back quite a ways in the $ department

I don't think it is crazy, I think you are awesome for trying to find solutions to benefit all of us.