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Old 05-19-2006, 09:24 PM   #1
CarolinaKid099
albino snows

Here are two albino snows i hatched..
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this one produced by an albino giant x snow het. albino

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This one was produced from a snow het. albino x snow het. albino

These are not from a mack snow or a gem snow.
they are tremper albino.
 
Old 05-19-2006, 09:26 PM   #2
Xavier
VEry nice what snow line are they?
 
Old 05-19-2006, 09:48 PM   #3
420Geckos
There awesome! Thanks for posting.
 
Old 05-19-2006, 10:09 PM   #4
Gregg M
Are they Line bred snows???
 
Old 05-19-2006, 11:14 PM   #5
snared99
Very nice albinos but if they are snows what line????
 
Old 05-20-2006, 12:03 AM   #6
The NY Gecko
Since theyre not gems or macks then they have to be line bred do they not?
 
Old 05-20-2006, 01:36 AM   #7
CarolinaKid099
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If you're not seeing an identifiable homozygous form, then it's not incomplete dominate.
I have seen them in homozygous form.

Lets do a small genetics lesson with incomplete co-dominant.

Lets say we take a normal snow and breed it to a normal gecko. If we believe its incomplete co-dominance, we will get roughly 1/2 the offspring will be normal and 1/2 of the offspring will be snow. The snows however will not be totally white, because there is a blending of the genes (normal and snow). Lets say we show the genotypes as RR for the normal and WW for the white snows. All the normal offspring would be considered RR and all the snow offspring would be considered from this clutch RW because those two traits blended together. Thats where the yellowness comes in the snows.

Now lets say we take those two snows from the first clutch (RW x RW) and breed them together. If you do a simple punnets square we end up roughly 25% will be RR (normal) , 50% RR (yellowy snows) and 25% WW (true white snows) . the homozygous form of the snows is the white (non yellow) ones.

We can mix up things and cross a yellowy snow (RW) with a white snow(WW). This cross will give you roughly 50% RW (yelowy snows) and 50% WW (White Snows)

You can do other punnets squares and work them out.

I have seen the "homozygous" ones.. they are brighter and more white , they stick out from the other snows.

Remember how the snows used to be graded A,B, and C? well there is how you get them. Obviously Grade A would be your homozygous form.

Line breeding involves no genes at all. You breed two boldly marked geckos together and you create more bolder marked geckos.. Same with coloration you breed the orangest geckos together to make more orange geckos.

All my breedings with my snows over the years have been consistant with the the incomplete codominant theory.
 
Old 05-20-2006, 06:43 AM   #8
Dan Lubinsky
Incomplete or not incomplete, they're completely beautiful. Please post some pics in a few months so we can see how they progress. Thanks.
 
Old 05-20-2006, 09:36 AM   #9
rhac
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Remember how the snows used to be graded A,B, and C? well there is how you get them. Obviously Grade A would be your homozygous form.
That sounds logical.
I mean just have a look at the C Snows...everytime I see them I have to think: "Snows? No...those are just normals or High Yellows"
So my guess is:
A-grade Snow: WW
B-grade Snow: RW
C-grade Snow: RR what means, they have no copy of the Snow gene what makes them normals. So all those Snows that are sold as C-grade Snows and look more like a Snow then a normal have to be called B-grade Snows. So the term C-grade Snow is not needed anymore.

Or the snow color gene is stored on two different alleles. Human skin color is stored on 6 or 8 alleles!
But the conclusion of that would be: If you say C you have to say D as well.
So:
A-grade Snow: WWWW
B-grade Snow: RWWW
C-grade Snow: RRWW
D-grade Snow: RRRW

But then, there have to be muchmuchmuch variation in appearenceof those Snow animals.
I hope this was not to confusing. My english i just to bad to explain it better
 
Old 05-20-2006, 12:28 AM   #10
CarolinaKid099
They are Incomplete co-dominant snows just like the "Gem" snows are. i have been working with these snows for about 5 years now. I strongly agree with Reptilian Gem's description of these snows. I don't think any snows were ever really "Line bred" (just a misnomer given to them) . I think all the non-mack snows fall under this.. I am glad Reptilian Gems is taking a stand to help decipher this myth about them. My original snows came from A1 Reptiles 6 years ago.
 
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