Bad Guy MYTHICAL DRAGONZ--- STEVEN WALKER BUT YOU KNOW HIM AS NICOLE NORTON!!!!!!

Manor manor manor... can we please stop bringing up real estate and get to the subject at hand??? ;P

MythicalDragonz said:

(Go ahead call me Nicole for saying I'm done posting no surprise there if you do)

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OK. But we will wait until you post on this thread again. Inevitably.

You can also note that "Steve" has failed to answer the questions about where his dragons are, what he has/had in dragons and about the "local" show he supposedly vended at(which he changed it to after people said they never saw him at the larger show he claimed to vend at) which again, no one can remember him being at either.

It was HIS dragons and HIS business, but now it's HER dragons that may have been bred to one in his line, and she's terribly ill and can't deal with computer things like ads and communications.. but she's not so ill she can't clean/feed/breed the dragons AND be on the computer to build the website. She knows all about building websites, but now she is 'learning' how to build a website while building this one(the new one that will go up, I suppose).

The "bashing" on the misspellings is NOT because "Steve" is making spelling errors, it's because "Steve" is making the SAME spelling errors as Nicole always does.

For the record though, the OP should slow down and re-read his own postings so that they are clear in the accusations. Some posts were too jumbled to make sense. Also, yes, a grown man CAN get into dragons later in life. And yes, a grown man can make spelling and grammar mistakes.

The issues of him claiming to have bred dragons for 8 years, but having no reputation, no people to claim witness for him.. and his habit of making the same spelling errors and grammar errors as Nicole.. and his habit of posting in the same mannor as Nicole... added to all the small bits of the story that does not add up in facts(Nicole's name on the website)... that ends up making it all sound extremely fishy.

I'd guess there IS a Steve fiancee, but I doubt Steve is posting and I doubt Steve was a dragon breeder for the past 8 years who happened to hook up with Nicole. My best guess would be Nicole is hoping she can convince everyone that the "Steve" in the business is such a stand up guy(despite all the back-pedaling and little fibs) that everyone will simply forget her own practices in the past.

Nice detective work to uncover and hook together the story. Just make sure to take the extra minute to check your posts so that when you give more info it's clear for everyone. Stick to the facts that you have, without guessing or reaching, so that people can really see this plot for what it is, rather than getting bogged down in details that don't pan out.

WELL please let me address this as many other had But I really like to say some things.

MythicalDragonz said:

Tom,
You seem to be the person here who wants to try to grab onto any tiny little string you can even if its pans out to be nothing,

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All my little strings put together proofed nicole was behind this, Right??? NOBODY even new you were selling nicoles dragons. So you got exposed.. Can you say BUSTED!!!

MythicalDragonz said:

You almost seem obsessed. I have said what needs to be said I am not Nicole I am her Fiance and because I am engaged to her you feel you have the right to attack and judge me; well you don't. The way I see it your jumping to conclusions and giving me no chance, how would you have liked people all over your beak when you first joined?

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Hey goofball ask niciole what her and ed did to me when I was a new guy. They bashed the livin s**t out of me for no reason. They were jealous of my animals at there prices!!! so they started bad mouthing me! FROM THE START.

Atleast i was a new guy with no criminal partner involved. I didnt jump in bed with a criminal like you then try and jack another man's reputable business name.

I am knocking you because this whole thing is b.s. I am knocking you because, Steve you own no dragons, your not a breeder. before sept 2010 you were a flippin GHOST.

MythicalDragonz said:

Honestly with the manor you have chosen to act and speak on here most of the people who read this thread are not going think as you do in my honest opinion they are going to give me my due chance on here and see how things pan out.

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Lol, you must not know, so let me fill you in " I dont care what people think of me", All I care about is whats important. A hand fool of ppl dont want to buy or sell to me because of a response oh no what am I going to do now??? I have two back ups tyo every feer I have and I have plenty of dragons to go around! To be honest it may be there loss?

I mean when it comes to business. my prices are low. the way business is conducted is professional. and my guarantee blows your b.s. guarantee out of the water, with most other guarantee's. Live arrival and 1 month after your animal arrives. I guarantee it!!! Talk to any previous customer of mine.

MythicalDragonz said:

You can dislike me as much you would like but you have made a very bad first impression on yourself when it comes to me

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If I dont care what others think, Why do i give a flyin what my first impression is to you. Your a toole, and your exposed. you tryed to sell nicoles dragons on the low low, because nobody would buy from nicole.
why else would you get rid of you web-site and vanish from the dragon market? Only to come back as a man and a new web-site, an to try and re-sell your animals.

Hum... was this a movie??? Kinda sounds like the pot to Ace venture pet detective. except it was a man coming back as a woman where this situation is flipped its a chick that came back as a man.

MythicalDragonz said:

All you could do was bash my Grammar and Typing so what I can't type I never did much with computers in my life I probably am getting the most use in computers since I started selling online.

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Dude are you that shallow or are you ducking it. THE GRAMMAR WAS POINTED OUT NOT BECAUSE YOU CANT SPELL BUT BECAUSE YOU MADE THE SAME WRONG GRAMMAR MISTAKES AS NICOLE DID!!!

MythicalDragonz said:

So what if the domain name is in my Fiances name? I can't build a web site and don't really want to so she has taken over that and she is learning how to build this web site as she goes.

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Thats what really gets me. The domain name is in nicoles name but you own it, you run it. Your also supposedly letting your ill fiance take care of the dirty work of the business.

MythicalDragonz said:

I am Steven Walker I love my Fiance wether everyone here dose(spelled wrong again after he/she fixed there for sale ads ) or not; run a police search run whatever search you want on me you will find nothing bad and If I get time later I will even post a picture of myself though I am not sure I need to since you can all see it on my facebook page; the only change is I do not have a beard like that anymore.

MythicalDragonz said:

And on a side note MythicalDragonz.com has never been up it will be when the site is complete, and Tom I have never been to a white plains show I sell at a local show here in Buffalo though there are plans in the works to go to White Plains and shows in PA.

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Didnt someone say they never seen you at that show??? lol whats the next excuse???

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dragonluver83 said:

my prices

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Thomas, don't advertise on the BOI. And, if I may offer a suggestion, take the high road. This guy (gal?) is trying to bait you. You did a great job bring some info here. Bask in the fact that your sleuthing was admired, and walk away from the bait.

lucille said:

Thomas, don't advertise on the BOI. And, if I may offer a suggestion, take the high road. This guy (gal?) is trying to bait you. You did a great job bring some info here. Bask in the fact that your sleuthing was admired, and walk away from the bait.

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good advice

lucille said:

Thomas, don't advertise on the BOI. And, if I may offer a suggestion, take the high road. This guy (gal?) is trying to bait you. You did a great job bring some info here. Bask in the fact that your sleuthing was admired, and walk away from the bait.

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lucille said:

Thomas, don't advertise on the BOI. And, if I may offer a suggestion, take the high road. This guy (gal?) is trying to bait you. You did a great job bring some info here. Bask in the fact that your sleuthing was admired, and walk away from the bait.

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Well said Lucille! Of course anyone could be drawn into an argument by such a master baiter, it's important to keep a cool head!

As much as I hate to say the following as it irritates me when others do it but I have not had a chance to read all of this thread, yet I will comment anyhow. If the following has already been stated by others I apologize.

MythicalDragonz said:

John,
I fully know of Nicole's reputation I know before we got engaged and merged I am not a cover nor is Nicole trying to change her reputation. I run Mythical Dragonz not her; she is doing what she loves breeding dragons and caring for them and I am a better people person and handle this end of it. Hopefully everyone will come to see I am not Nicole and not judge me based on that.

Thankyou,
Steven Walker

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And that is exactly the problem!!! The leopard will not change her spots. She will just look for something (or in this case someone, you) else to hide behind and wait for the next unsuspecting prey to wonder by. You are nothing more then camouflage. The two of you don't seem to understand that she is fooling no one other then you.

You are judged by not only by your actions but by the company you keep. You are choosing to align yourself with someone of questionable (or lack there of) character and then you wonder why you are getting judged as you are? She is an anchor around your neck and will do nothing more then drag you down with her.

How is she suppose to attempt to change her reputation if the girl is getting harassed everywhere she posts? She isn't banned from Fauna, is she?

Not too long ago, someone brought up her old [BAD GUY]that she's putting up ads on a different forum. Made a big deal about her trying to deny the BOI after someone started touching base with anyone who contacts her about an animal rolleyes_ )... How is she suppose to try to change her reputation?

Don't get me wrong, her customer service sucks and from the past, dealing with downfalls is a hard pill for her to swallow; and that she did do her friends wrong, and tried to change things so they fell into place in her favor, and enhanced photos confused

But why did it have to come down to where she has to "hide" behind a "Mr. Walker"? shrug01

Something that I find just a bit odd..... What's the chances of her finding another much older man in HER AREA that is also into Beardies. Now I know they are a common species, but first Ed and now this guy. She should play the lottery if she has that kind of luck.

shinezilla said:

she has to

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A string of honest transactions might have swayed the rep that she EARNED. Lying and hiding won't do that.

She doesn't have to hide and pass herself off as someone else. She could simply take her lumps for what she did that HURT other people, and make a new name for herself one deal at a time.

Would that be difficult? You bet. But she apparently chose to be a sneak.
That only makes the good road farther away for her.

lucille said:

A string of honest transactions might have swayed the rep that she EARNED. Lying and hiding won't do that.

She doesn't have to hide and pass herself off as someone else. She could simply take her lumps for what she did that HURT other people, and make a new name for herself one deal at a time.

Would that be difficult? You bet. But she apparently chose to be a sneak.
That only makes the good road farther away for her.

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And by changing her name and trying to hide her past... it shows she has a convict mentality. She is trying to hide from what she has done.. .not face it and change it. For some reason Convicts always think its easier to try and hide from their past than try and change it towards the good. Funny thing is... that only makes it worse not better because eventually someone will figure out who you are.

Wow I don't know where to start with this I have herd what's going on from steve though there a few things I feel need to be handled right now and this is one that has always bugged the hell out of me as it is he is pissed that I am going to post this as he dose not want me getting into this right now. Yes Steven is older than me sure Ed was too but I don't feel age really matters; I love Steve we both love Dragons and many others things why should age have anything to do with it?

Two I am not Steve and Steve is not me I do not use his Fauna Account to post nor will I yes our IP's match and that is because there is one computer in our house there is nothing I can do about that. Yes the domain is in my name because I know more about building a site than Steve dose all of the sites I have done where using Site builders not HTML like the new one, I am having a hell of a time learning the codes so the site is taking a lot longer than I had hoped. I know someone pulled up a face book page to someone in FL I think that had Steve's last name neither of us know who she is his Ex wife still lives in NY. Another thing I don't get is why the comment was made about him being in dragons for 8 years? I know another breeder near by who just started into dragons and is in his 50's I don't see how that matters Steve is really good with the dragons he knows a lot about them. Steve has not done any major shows and I do not think he has claimed to he has only been to the Buffalo Show near by and that is where I met him. Our dragons are all under the same roof, someone asked about the enclosures they are similar to mine except he uses a different type of wood instead of the heavy melamine I have.

So here is the answer to one of your big questions "Why I supposedly Disappeared" I have cancer and will be having surgery for it soon I am stressed out enough of and honestly I don't want to deal with people I do not know or the sales right now I'd much rather just take care of the dragons, No Steve dose not sit there and watch me do the work he helps out a lot too.

There was a comment made by DAND I think, if I am wrong I am sure it will be corrected. I don't think any of you understood what was meant by it and read into it wrong. "Nicole is not trying to change her reputation" was in reply to someone saying that I was using Steve to change it which I am not I don't why it had to be turned into what it is but that is wrong. Everyone actually think I don't feel bad? If that's the case you are very mistaken. Yeah I have done wrong and I feel like a piece of shit for it but there is not a whole lot I can do about it. How can I correct the past? Who knows everyone probably will come up with the "Money" stuff again but with my Medical Bills there is nothing I can in that sense, selling dragons is keeping most of them paid. I can say right out I have been afraid to try to fix anything because I don't need everyone jumping down my throat again and making personal attacks on me.


I can offer my apologies though

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Aaron (rin0425)

I am sorry that I sent him a dragon with a toe nip I honestly did not see it I made a mistake and should of handled it better and made it right instead of making an a$$ of myself. Aaron and I actually have over come our differences he purchased another dragon from me a while back I think it was sometime in Spring and I made damn sure it was as I told him and he was thrilled with her.
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Sheena (sjsexotics)

I am truly sorry that the dragon did not come in as it was pictured and I should of just fully refunded you and taken the dragon back and ended the whole problem then and there. It was a stupid move on my part and I shouldn't have been such a dumb a$$.
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Paul (crazycoolpaul)

I am sorry the dragon didn't produce the babies it should have I should of looked into the dragon more and got the information from the breeder that produced him instead of taking the word of the lady the sold him to me I was stupid. I should of just apologized like you wanted instead of fighting and making myself look like a bit$h
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Tom (dragonluver83

Dude I am sorry for being an a$$ to you I shouldn't have based my opinion of you solely on what "others" told me I strongly believe in not judging a book by its cover but I still did it anyway's. With the hypo translucent deal back in summer the dragon was traded to me and I was told it came from you I have no way to know if that was true or not I took the word of someone else and should of called or emailed you and asked about it first instead of just coming after you like I did.

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Hopefully this helps a little I can't control what everyone thinks of me and I can't control your opinions yeah I can be a b$tch, I have a short fuse, my customer service sucked, and I am not a people person and never have been that is part of the reason why I am staying behind the scenes and caring for the dragons and breeding them my health is the other half I really just don't want anymore stress right now dealing with cancer is hard enough on its own.


I would like to ask everyone please do not judge Steve based on my past he doesn't deserve that. What I did is my own damn fault he had no part of it, he is a great guy and I appreciate everything he dose for me. We should have probably just came and said we merged but I did not want him to because I didn't want him to have to deal with what I have in the past, I knew people would go nuts when they found out.


I am not feeling very good today it's one of my bad days so you probably will not hear back from me today.

Nicole

The apologies are a good start.


I hope your illness can be managed. As I recall, you were ill in the Ed thread as well, it seemed a different illness. I do not wish ill health on anyone and hope the best for you.

I have to say that the spelling and speaking similarities still gives me pause for thought.

HowlinGaleDragons said:

... How can I correct the past? ...

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Nicole, if you truly do have cancer, then you have my sincere sympathy and well wishes to conquer it and return to full health.

Now, if you really DO want to "correct the past" then you have to start by being HONEST in the PRESENT. Sincere apologies are a great start. But how can anyone believe their sincerity when you are still flat-out lying and posting as two different identities? In fact...how can anyone believe a single word you type...about anything, including personal illnesses....if you continue with such blatant dishonesty?

You CAN "correct the past"...by choosing to live a life of integrity. It doesn't take "people skills" to be a woman of integrity. It takes COURAGE and the willingness to be HONEST no matter what the cost.

Yes...coming clean now about this whole "Steven" fiasco would be painful. I've no doubt about it. It would not be an easy thing to do. But it would be a HUGE step in the right direction toward being the person you claim you wish to be.

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Wow I don't know where to start with this I have herd what's going on from steve though there a few things I feel need to be handled right now and this is one that has always bugged the hell out of me as it is he is pissed that I am going to post this as he dose not want me getting into this right now. Yes Steven is older than me sure Ed was too but I don't feel age really matters; I love Steve we both love Dragons and many others things why should age have anything to do with it?

Two I am not Steve and Steve is not me I do not use his Fauna Account to post nor will I yes our IP's match and that is because there is one computer in our house there is nothing I can do about that. Yes the domain is in my name because I know more about building a site than Steve dose all of the sites I have done where using Site builders not HTML like the new one, I am having a hell of a time learning the codes so the site is taking a lot longer than I had hoped. I know someone pulled up a face book page to someone in FL I think that had Steve's last name neither of us know who she is his Ex wife still lives in NY. Another thing I don't get is why the comment was made about him being in dragons for 8 years? I know another breeder near by who just started into dragons and is in his 50's I don't see how that matters Steve is really good with the dragons he knows a lot about them. Steve has not done any major shows and I do not think he has claimed to he has only been to the Buffalo Show near by and that is where I met him. Our dragons are all under the same roof, someone asked about the enclosures they are similar to mine except he uses a different type of wood instead of the heavy melamine I have.

So here is the answer to one of your big questions "Why I supposedly Disappeared" I have cancer and will be having surgery for it soon I am stressed out enough of and honestly I don't want to deal with people I do not know or the sales right now I'd much rather just take care of the dragons, No Steve dose not sit there and watch me do the work he helps out a lot too.

There was a comment made by DAND I think, if I am wrong I am sure it will be corrected. I don't think any of you understood what was meant by it and read into it wrong. "Nicole is not trying to change her reputation" was in reply to someone saying that I was using Steve to change it which I am not I don't why it had to be turned into what it is but that is wrong. Everyone actually think I don't feel bad? If that's the case you are very mistaken. Yeah I have done wrong and I feel like a piece of shit for it but there is not a whole lot I can do about it. How can I correct the past? Who knows everyone probably will come up with the "Money" stuff again but with my Medical Bills there is nothing I can in that sense, selling dragons is keeping most of them paid. I can say right out I have been afraid to try to fix anything because I don't need everyone jumping down my throat again and making personal attacks on me.


I can offer my apologies though

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Aaron (rin0425)

I am sorry that I sent him a dragon with a toe nip I honestly did not see it I made a mistake and should of handled it better and made it right instead of making an a$$ of myself. Aaron and I actually have over come our differences he purchased another dragon from me a while back I think it was sometime in Spring and I made damn sure it was as I told him and he was thrilled with her.
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Sheena (sjsexotics)

I am truly sorry that the dragon did not come in as it was pictured and I should of just fully refunded you and taken the dragon back and ended the whole problem then and there. It was a stupid move on my part and I shouldn't have been such a dumb a$$.
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Paul (crazycoolpaul)

I am sorry the dragon didn't produce the babies it should have I should of looked into the dragon more and got the information from the breeder that produced him instead of taking the word of the lady the sold him to me I was stupid. I should of just apologized like you wanted instead of fighting and making myself look like a bit$h
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Tom (dragonluver83

Dude I am sorry for being an a$$ to you I shouldn't have based my opinion of you solely on what "others" told me I strongly believe in not judging a book by its cover but I still did it anyway's. With the hypo translucent deal back in summer the dragon was traded to me and I was told it came from you I have no way to know if that was true or not I took the word of someone else and should of called or emailed you and asked about it first instead of just coming after you like I did.

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Hopefully this helps a little I can't control what everyone thinks of me and I can't control your opinions yeah I can be a b$tch, I have a short fuse, my customer service sucked, and I am not a people person and never have been that is part of the reason why I am staying behind the scenes and caring for the dragons and breeding them my health is the other half I really just don't want anymore stress right now dealing with cancer is hard enough on its own.


I would like to ask everyone please do not judge Steve based on my past he doesn't deserve that. What I did is my own damn fault he had no part of it, he is a great guy and I appreciate everything he dose for me. We should have probably just came and said we merged but I did not want him to because I didn't want him to have to deal with what I have in the past, I knew people would go nuts when they found out.


I am not feeling very good today it's one of my bad days so you probably will not hear back from me today.

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I'm just gonna throw it out there... I've never seen anyone consistently misspell this word in my life, and I've corresponded with a boatload of people. That two people consistently misspell this word, one of whom is well-know to be trying to cover up a shady past, and one of whom is a relative ghost, entering the scene out of nowhere and bearing an uncanny resemblance to the type of person the other is known to be a sucker for?

Judy,
I understand you still do not believe it but Nicole and I are truly together and I have been in dragons longer than her I do not understand why it is so hard for you to see that. I am Steven Walker I am here typing for myself as I always have, what would help you see that this is the truth?

Thankyou,
Steven Walker

MythicalDragonz said:

Judy,
I understand you still do not believe it but Nicole and I are truly together and I have been in dragons longer than her I do not understand why it is so hard for you to see that. I am Steven Walker I am here typing for myself as I always have, what would help you see that this is the truth?

Thankyou,
Steven Walker

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I never said I don't believe Nicole is with a man named Steven. I don't KNOW one way or the other, but have no evidence to believe or disbelieve that aspect of all of this.

What we DO have evidence of is the fact that Nicole is simply incapable of hiding herself when she pretends to be someone else. She tried....oh yes, she did. And maybe Steven is backing her up in her efforts...which, if true, doesn't exactly speak highly of his integrity that she is trying to hard to convince everyone is strong.

Nicole...why would I tell someone how to convince me their lie is a truth? That would be silly. There IS no convincing me...or anyone else with a few brain cells and a moderate power of observation. I'm sorry hon....you simply can't pull it off.

MythicalDragonz said:

I do not understand why it is so hard for you to see that.

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Because of the generous loads of horse hockey you/she have dished out in the past. I find myself not believing the two of y'all are separate people. If you/she take the straight path and vend a few shows together, maybe.....