How about everyone get out of the mud pit and stop slinging mud at each other, and go back to the subject of the thread. No matter what sort of thread is on the BOI, evidence is encouraged. How about more evidence and less mud?
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ElexisC
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We've asked him many many many times to provide evidence, I ended up trolled on my like page and harassed. He deflects and tries to make other people look bad when asked for proof, he will not get these 2 people to come here and post their proof. As far as I'm concerned the OP is innocent until Tom and his buddies post their proof of all these dead and diseased snakes.
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Not the op, but the person he posted about, Kris Reiners. Not sure why I said op, the op is obviously unstable and I doubt we'll ever see proof.
I don't see that. Hotheaded for sure. But if everyone can take a deep breath and stop slinging mud, perhaps the thread can do what it is supposed to.
I respect readers here. If there is an accusation with no proof, they will draw a logical conclusion.
But all this other stuff just clouds the issue.
missred
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Go to his group on Facebook u will see exactly how unstable he is..... that link elexis provided shows he beat a kid up in school which warranted a law suit sounds pretty unstable to me
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Maela, what part of what you just wrote is proof? ALL people have to do in this thread, or any thread, is show unsupported accusation. Then the other party can if he wishes provide proof.
If you want to PM me and chat about how you feel about a party, fine.
But let's get this business thread back on a business level, please.
I do not support name calling or trashing others. But part of salvaging a derailed thread is for all the parties to agree to comport themselves appropriately, even if all parties sort of messed up on that concept earlier in the thread.
If you want to PM me and chat about how you feel about a party, fine.
But let's get this business thread back on a business level, please.
I do not support name calling or trashing others. But part of salvaging a derailed thread is for all the parties to agree to comport themselves appropriately, even if all parties sort of messed up on that concept earlier in the thread.
missred
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It goes to prove his character and exactly how this entire boi thread was based solely on the fact he had a fit and a disagreement with Chris this is very relevant since he wants to make fake boi threads to try and trash someone's business with no proof or reason other than the fact he's childish...... that's how this all pertains to it.... don't agree cool stop commenting then because your comments would be considered clutter as well
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Pointing out that there is no proof is the best way to meet unsubstantiated claims.
Black Adder
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Says two NKOTB!
Buy from him you two!
This will be my last post on this thread as Tom is obviously somewhat delusional.
Do NOT make the noob mistake of looking at a persons join date and their postcount and think "noob", that is just so lame!
Do you think at 55 years of age this is my first rodeo....lmao
But why do you keep deflecting from the point at hand which after all this IS your BOI thread?
And yet you can bring NO proof to the table whatsoever
Their is only ONE persons "reputation" that has been decimated here and it is not that of Kris.....yet.
I have seen this term thrown back and forth on this thread. To me, it doesn't matter if it is a person's first post or their millionth, what is important is the content of the post.
Also, newcomers should in my opinion be treated with care and respect, they are the future of the hobby. Saying someone is new should not be done in a pejorative way, quite on the other hand, it should be done in a welcoming manner.
snowgyre
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Hate to do this to you, Tom, but I did offer to help you post proof. You responded with odd trolling comments and then blocked me on Facebook. The BOI has its own set of guidelines for a reason, choosing not to follow them (especially when you initiate a thread) has its own set of consequences.
I really, truly don't understand why you're behaving in such a way? It almost seems like you find this attention amusing? You've got some really neat snakes out there, but this bad habit you have of trolling is doing nothing but hurting you. I've seen you lash out on Facebook as well and I even had to remove myself from one of your groups after there was highly compromising material being posted. I, as a professional, have no choice but to distance myself as far away from that stuff as possible (nor do I want to be anywhere near it to begin with).
I don't wish to add to the drama and have no desire to be a part of it. This is all I have currently to contribute to this BOI topic, as it pertains to the issue of proof. This will probably be my last post in this thread. Again, I'm sorry Tom, but you did this to yourself. The burden of full proof lies with you.
I really, truly don't understand why you're behaving in such a way? It almost seems like you find this attention amusing? You've got some really neat snakes out there, but this bad habit you have of trolling is doing nothing but hurting you. I've seen you lash out on Facebook as well and I even had to remove myself from one of your groups after there was highly compromising material being posted. I, as a professional, have no choice but to distance myself as far away from that stuff as possible (nor do I want to be anywhere near it to begin with).
I don't wish to add to the drama and have no desire to be a part of it. This is all I have currently to contribute to this BOI topic, as it pertains to the issue of proof. This will probably be my last post in this thread. Again, I'm sorry Tom, but you did this to yourself. The burden of full proof lies with you.
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Warning: A word about certain people slinging the "noob" term at others in a derogatory and antagonizing fashion. FYI, unless you started breeding snakes before 1975 or so, YOU could be considered as a "noob" to me. And anyone that has been breeding reptiles before 1975 could just as rightly refer to ME as a noob. To THEM. So everyone here is probably a noob to someone else. Everyone single solitary person here had to start somewhere, some time.
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And just in case you are thinking about trying to split hairs with spelling, or using similar terms that will mean basically the same, DON'T. I'm not interested in playing word games with anyone. This is NOT FaceBook here.
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And just in case you are thinking about trying to split hairs with spelling, or using similar terms that will mean basically the same, DON'T. I'm not interested in playing word games with anyone. This is NOT FaceBook here.
Amelanistic Orca
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At Starbucks... What's everybody's favorite drink? Have a good night e'rebody!
Amelanistic Orca
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First clutch at five years old... I had six snakes at that point. And I never quit I'm still going at it 33 years later. How close are we?
Not very. Your profile says your birthdate was in 1977. I really SERIOUSLY started breeding reptiles when I was 25 or so years old, not counting the kid stuff I did. So I was breeding snakes before you were even a twinkle in your dad's eye.
Billy1138
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Tom's Facebook is littered with memes about trolling online. It appears he brought that mentality to fauna. I'm sure this thread is more for his own amusement than anything else.
And the "do not do business with" keeps growing.
And the "do not do business with" keeps growing.
Amelanistic Orca
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I believe you are capable of doing the math.
Amelanistic Orca
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As good as it gets. This is between Patrick and Kris as of last night. There are no Vet records. I know you guys want that. IT IS NOT A PERFECT WORLD! If you don't see a pattern arising. We will let time pass, and Kris will be responsible for another death, you'll have to trust the TROLL!
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