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All that said, I have seen some awesome animals (imo) that I wanted. I saw a Pastel/Het Ivory that I wanted..but it wasn't up to my specifications. I am looking for a Yellowbelly/Het Clown breeding sized female.

Based on my own reactions and the reactions of the few breeders that I know...I don't think that people will slow down buying animals too much..at least not the die hard herpers! :)
 
deborahbroadus said:
Wait till YOU fall on the wrong side and it's aimed at you. It is quite different to be on the receiving end of a lot of "brute" talking.

(here's a tissue......to wipe that smudge of brown off your nose):rofl:
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Sorry Deb, but I will take brutal honesty over wishy washy BS any day of the week. I grew up with brutal honesty. My parents didnt play. They were very clear, concise and used no uncertain terms. I am a better human being for it.
 
shrap said:
I agree with where you are coming from Deb.

But changing your stance due to further education, personal experiences, etc, is not being a hypocrite. That is called learning and having an open mind.

As far as Donna is concerned I dont know how anyone can label her a hypocrite when Donna cant even keep to the same story or set of beliefs for more than a post or two. Nutjob is the word that comes to mind.
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:rofl:(at the last part) Sometimes..the words are tricky. Thanks for explaining.
 
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shrap said:
Sorry Deb, but I will take brutal honesty over wishy washy BS any day of the week. I grew up with brutal honesty. My parents didnt play. They were very clear, concise and used no uncertain terms. I am a better human being for it.
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Oh trust me..so do I. My parents also didn't play...and they backed up their words with straps. Harald doesn't sugar-coat anything. He just lays it out there.

ummmmm...working with people, children, babies...seeing what words can do to self-esteem, self-image..so many broken babies and people..I do believe we can be honest and kind at the same time.

This desire to be honest without trying to destroy is not wishy-washy in my opinion (and lest you get the wrong image..I can and do blister with words when I am stepped on too much) I consider it as being kind. I wouldn't call my own daughter a "stupid b*&ch" for wearing something I didn't agree with or not making sense (sometimes kids make the least sense of anyone) or not thinking before she did something (SHE ONCE TOTALED A BRAND NEW CAR OF MINE THAT I HAD HAD ONLY ONE FREAKING WEEK!!) so I certainly do not see the need to talk like that to anyone else...but believe me there have been times when I have wanted to!!

So are strangers less deserving of kindness than our children, or do we apply that same butal honesty to our children? Am I misunderstanding the term "Brutal Honesty?"
 
deborahbroadus said:
Am I misunderstanding the term "Brutal Honesty?"
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I guess we all can have differing opinions on the definition of brutal honesty. To me brutal honesty is simply saying it how it is. Being a straight shooter. Using no uncertain terms.

Name calling and expletives are not a part of brutal honesty to me. That goes into another category altogether.

Now sugar coating honesty to me goes something like this:

Your wife asks you if her butt looks fat in a new pair of jeans she just bought. As a husband, if you have been married longer than 5 seconds, you KNOW the answer to that one regardless of what the truth is.
 
shrap said:
I guess we all can have differing opinions on the definition of brutal honesty. To me brutal honesty is simply saying it how it is. Being a straight shooter. Using no uncertain terms.

Name calling and expletives are not a part of brutal honesty to me. That goes into another category altogether.

Now sugar coating honesty to me goes something like this:

Your wife asks you if her butt looks fat in a new pair of jeans she just bought. As a husband, if you have been married longer than 5 seconds, you KNOW the answer to that one regardless of what the truth is.
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THAT IS NOT TRUE!!!:rofl::rofl: You can be honest!! You can say something like, "Honey, you know I love you no matter what you are wearing, but I do think (insert preferred clothing here) shows off your assets the best!:yesnod:
 
I've been reading about this whole Pastel thing...Can anyone post a progression of what would be considered a "nice" Pastel (hatchling, yearling & adult)? I think I have photos of my Conrad, and I was curious how he measures up.
 
shrap said:
Your wife asks you if her butt looks fat in a new pair of jeans she just bought. As a husband, if you have been married longer than 5 seconds, you KNOW the answer to that one regardless of what the truth is.
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Funny too, all you ever hear from women, is they just "want a man that's going to be honest, faithful" etc. Then they ask something like that, and you say, "yup, they sure do", and you don't get any for a month. :shrug01:

Probably explains why I'm single more often then not. I don't know how to sugar coat stuff without a good fifteen minutes of serious thinking. By then, they know you're up to something. :shootfoot
 
crotalusadamanteus said:
Funny too, all you ever hear from women, is they just "want a man that's going to be honest, faithful" etc. Then they ask something like that, and you say, "yup, they sure do", and you don't get any for a month. :shrug01:

Probably explains why I'm single more often then not. I don't know how to sugar coat stuff without a good fifteen minutes of serious thinking. By then, they know you're up to something. :shootfoot
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If it takes 15 minutes of serious thinking to come up with a "kind" statement, then when she asks, wreck her, drag her into bed and love her up..then when her clothes are wrecked..say, "here baby, wear this."

You may have to "beg" a bit first before you get to the "wrecking"..tell her you'll help her get her clothes back together after y'all are finished!:thumbsup::rofl::rofl:

*the above response reassures her that she's sexy as hell in ANYTHING! *
 
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Southern Wolf said:
I know I havent... in the last 2 mos I have purchased 6 corns, 3 BP, 6 leos, 3 beardies, 2 hoggies, 1 Speckled King

I think thats bout it.
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I haven't slowed down either...just become more picky as I learn more! The way I am thinking;

Prices have dropped (partly) because of the hobbyist. This is a good time for those that are prepared to get their own breeding stock together to prepare for the next "up" of the economy.

The hobbyist won't stay in long because it's not making money as fast as he dreamed, he had no plan, and no back up finances to tide him over during the "lean" times (but that doesn't mean he won't be back after he sells everything he has now to tide him over during the "lean times) We are in the midst of a "Changing of the Guard" and things have no where to go but UP.
 
Yep.... the only thing listed above that is gonna be pet quaility only is the Speck. She ate her mate lol.... I think that is why the guy was getting rid of her.... kinda ticked him off.

The rest Im working on my breeding stock.
 
crotalusadamanteus said:
Funny too, all you ever hear from women, is they just "want a man that's going to be honest, faithful" etc. Then they ask something like that, and you say, "yup, they sure do", and you don't get any for a month. :shrug01:

Probably explains why I'm single more often then not. I don't know how to sugar coat stuff without a good fifteen minutes of serious thinking. By then, they know you're up to something. :shootfoot
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I never ask that question therefore he's not abliged to come up with a fitting lie! :D
 
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