Is the Fall From Grace fatal to the Good Guy Certs?

For the most part the GGC works as it was intended. You will have people who will act like an idiot who will be vindictive and give negative votes to others they have issues with. For example bud, neil and bruce giving Wes a negative vote. Again, consider the source.

Bill I do have to say that your attitude as of late is unbecoming and disappointing. Just a little bit of friendly advice, chill. I don't see how taking jabs at others is going to accoiplish anything other than keeping you in the negative light you have put yourself in.

David,I do see your point,seeing as typing isn't my forte', if this was done in a room of people, maybe my point would get across, but its not, Im not taking jabs at any one that don't deserve it....When all the stuff on the other thread broke I asked for my GGC be removed ....I didnt have a vote to get it why should there be one to lose it????

Originally Posted by Clearwater_Reptiles

David,I do see your point,seeing as typing isn't my forte', if this was done in a room of people, maybe my point would get across, but its not, Im not taking jabs at any one that don't deserve it....When all the stuff on the other thread broke I asked for my GGC be removed ....I didnt have a vote to get it why should there be one to lose it????

That's just the way Rich had it set up. I don't have the time to find the link right now because I have a show to do but it was along the lines of if you fell under 50% good guy and you lost your ability to display the certification ribbon on your site.

I second the sentiment, Bill, you seem to be turning a new undesireable leaf suddenly in this thread.

YES, Mr. Evil Leech-on-society could come in and start to vote people bad for the heck of it. And YES, if he has a following of friends they could easily come and vote like their friend did.

HOWEVER, I PERSONALLY would like to believe that the number of honest straightforward people on this site far outweigh those who are just Evil, or who are little followers who have no brain of their own.

Big-Name-Breeder, or just Big-Name-On-Fauna.. it doesn't matter. Personally I vote my heart. YES, the opinion of those whose opinion matters to me does influence my decision, that is life.

One of the reasons this poll was started was more to get the discussion going because some people seemed to believe that YOUR actions, Bill, had tainted a system and irrevocably damaged it. It was my contention all along that your actions, while a test for the system, did NOT damage the system. YOUR thread wasn't the place to discuss this, so I came here.

I do NOT see what your problem is. Wes pisses off TONS of people but only a few have actually voted him a bad guy and he understands that you'll get scum like that but that the majority, IF you're a good guy, will treat you fairly

EVERY DAMN SYSTEM OUT THERE IS FLAWED.

The reason you have to have a vote to lose the GGC is because that is the way the system works. The methodology was in place when you applied for the GGC, why do you complain about it now?

While deploring your bad-guy actions in general, I was admiring you for taking the hits you were taking WELL, like a person who intends to be a good guy again someday instead of like the REAL bad guys who whine and complain and shift blame. But your actions on this thread are shifting my opinion.

It is, of course, your prerogative, Bill, to say whatever you want and express whatever opinion you have. But when you jump into this thread and start demanding answers to questions that have been answered a dozen times and act like you've been wronged when it just ISN"T SO... thats' troubling.

Originally Posted by DAND

That's just the way Rich had it set up. I don't have the time to find the link right now because I have a show to do but it was along the lines of if you fell under 50% good guy and you lost your ability to display the certification ribbon on your site.

Ok I see that point......But when Dennis did pull it as he did..I went to my site and took it off ....Then It was I cant do that its a vote thing so in a matter of lets just say 2 hours, Its gone to reappear

Bill if YOU READ THIS thread, you'll see answers to your questions. (YES and a lot of fluff too)

IF you JUST read the posts WebSlave has made to this thread and skip all the others you'll understand why things are as they are. It's that simple.

Originally Posted by Sasheena

I second the sentiment, Bill, you seem to be turning a new undesireable leaf suddenly in this thread.
YES, Mr. Evil Leech-on-society could come in and start to vote people bad for the heck of it. And YES, if he has a following of friends they could easily come and vote like their friend did.
HOWEVER, I PERSONALLY would like to believe that the number of honest straightforward people on this site far outweigh those who are just Evil, or who are little followers who have no brain of their own.
Big-Name-Breeder, or just Big-Name-On-Fauna.. it doesn't matter. Personally I vote my heart. YES, the opinion of those whose opinion matters to me does influence my decision, that is life.
One of the reasons this poll was started was more to get the discussion going because some people seemed to believe that YOUR actions, Bill, had tainted a system and irrevocably damaged it. It was my contention all along that your actions, while a test for the system, did NOT damage the system. YOUR thread wasn't the place to discuss this, so I came here.
I do NOT see what your problem is. Wes pisses off TONS of people but only a few have actually voted him a bad guy and he understands that you'll get scum like that but that the majority, IF you're a good guy, will treat you fairly
EVERY DAMN SYSTEM OUT THERE IS FLAWED.
The reason you have to have a vote to lose the GGC is because that is the way the system works. The methodology was in place when you applied for the GGC, why do you complain about it now?
While deploring your bad-guy actions in general, I was admiring you for taking the hits you were taking WELL, like a person who intends to be a good guy again someday instead of like the REAL bad guys who whine and complain and shift blame. But your actions on this thread are shifting my opinion.
It is, of course, your prerogative, Bill, to say whatever you want and express whatever opinion you have. But when you jump into this thread and start demanding answers to questions that have been answered a dozen times and act like you've been wronged when it just ISN"T SO... thats' troubling.

Point taken thank you. I'm Sorry I didn't realize I was coming across that way

Originally Posted by Sasheena

Bill if YOU READ THIS thread, you'll see answers to your questions. (YES and a lot of fluff too)
IF you JUST read the posts WebSlave has made to this thread and skip all the others you'll understand why things are as they are. It's that simple.

LOL I read it,(yes there is alot of Fluff} And I do see The whole picture, once again seeing thing through Cloudy eyes and I'm sorry for the attitude

OK now I know This question wasn't answered, If you wind up in the negative and bring it back to positive and you still don't want the ribbon then what is the same as you have the 30 days to put it on a website or lose it ??? just curious

Wouldn't it make more sense to have a space to fill in a blurb about why you voted the way you did in conjunction with the voting system for the GGC? Just wondering why it doesn't work that way.