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General Legislative Discussions Any general discussion concerning legislative issues or events. Not necessarily specific to a particular region, or even a type of animal group. |
06-27-2011, 06:30 PM
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San Francisco Pet Sales ban
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06-27-2011, 06:40 PM
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That is B.S. Soon they will try to ban Sex, fast food, and interracial relationships! When will our country stop becomming such a communist country? Isn't this supposed to be the land of the free and the home of the brave? To me it seems people are trying to make it the land of the poor, jobless, illiterate and the home of the enslaved! People need to quit trying to fix everything, they keep ing it up for everyone else!
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06-27-2011, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by redhood23
That is B.S. Soon they will try to ban Sex, fast food, and interracial relationships! When will our country stop becomming such a communist country? Isn't this supposed to be the land of the free and the home of the brave? To me it seems people are trying to make it the land of the poor, jobless, illiterate and the home of the enslaved! People need to quit trying to fix everything, they keep ing it up for everyone else!
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Exactly...That's why you need to vote Libertarian and/or stay in TX, Brett...Although, govt has overstepped itself here, with the unconstitutional road hunting ban...
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06-27-2011, 10:36 PM
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Im staying in texas max. I need your number again. I lost it again.
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07-01-2011, 01:32 AM
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I dub thee..."Petriot Act"
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07-01-2011, 02:16 AM
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If only those poor residents of San Fran could somehow escape the confines of the city limits, or gain access to the internet, they would be free to continue to purchase animals as they have been able to.
Wait..... they can. So this proposition is aimed at accomplishing basically nothing aside from grandstanding and what may be considered a stepping stone and "win" for the radical animal rights faction.
Encourage adoptions? Not likely when it comes to exotics. Considering 95% of exotics that are up for adoption are species that most people aren't interested in, or else they wouldn't be up for adoption, and even those are probably low in numbers compared to demand even in a large city. Who ever heard of a fish at an animal shelter anyway?
This is one of the most inane, and completely pointless propositions I can think of, with the only resulting effect being the damage done to small business, and large business for that matter, and their employees.
Way to go San Fran, once again a beacon in the night for all to look toward for guidance.
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07-01-2011, 11:20 AM
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I don't agree with a full ban, but it SHOULD be more difficult to obtain a pet. You shouldn't be able to waltz in, pay 5 bucks for a mouse and then neglect it or give it to a shelter in a week when your kid gets bored of it. Or pay a buck for a goldfish so it can languish in a tiny bowl.
If someone has to put some effort into getting their pet, maybe they'll be more likely to put effort into caring for it.
This is in an ideal world anyway. -_- I know in some countries you need permits and things to even keep stuff like beardies, but that'll never happen here
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Originally Posted by Clay Davenport
Encourage adoptions? Not likely when it comes to exotics. Considering 95% of exotics that are up for adoption are species that most people aren't interested in, _
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This is crap. Know what all my local rescues are full of?
Red ear sliders, ball pythons, corn snakes, beardies, leopard geckos... all the 'common easy cheap' ones you can pick up at any pet store, that people are encouraged to get as good beginner pets. Obviously people want them- hence pet stores sell them- but too many people get them on a whim because it's so easy.
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07-02-2011, 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Ivyna J Spyder
I don't agree with a full ban, but it SHOULD be more difficult to obtain a pet. You shouldn't be able to waltz in, pay 5 bucks for a mouse .
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Five bucks for a mouse and a dollar for a goldfish is a crime in of itself.
Who are you to decide what I do with my money and purchase what I want?
I'm guessing you would eventually require a class on how to properly take care of a mouse? Then the permit will be suggested.
I'm sorry but that is just a bunch a "crap" as you would state. It reminds me of the BS law they tried to pass statewide here in California a couple of years ago. Snakes having food available at all times and mice having so much space per mouse it would have made it impossible for anyone to carry feeders.
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Originally Posted by Ivyna J Spyder
This is in an ideal world anyway. -_- I know in some countries you need permits and things to even keep stuff like beardies, but that'll never happen here
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They are already doing it here species by species. Cause by cause. Yeah, lets permit and regulate everything. It all turns into nothing more than a money making scheme for the state and a loss of individual freedoms. You can have it elsewhere but I think many here are tired of being pushed. That's why we have stood up, taken notice and started fighting these pushes to take away the animals most of us on this board works with.
I think you will find you are in the wrong place to be pushing more regulation on a site whose members are constantly being threatened with their animals being banned are being regulated out of business.
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07-02-2011, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Ivyna J Spyder
I don't agree with a full ban, but it SHOULD be more difficult to obtain a pet. You shouldn't be able to waltz in, pay 5 bucks for a mouse and then neglect it or give it to a shelter in a week when your kid gets bored of it. Or pay a buck for a goldfish so it can languish in a tiny bowl.
If someone has to put some effort into getting their pet, maybe they'll be more likely to put effort into caring for it.
This is in an ideal world anyway. -_- I know in some countries you need permits and things to even keep stuff like beardies, but that'll never happen here
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The government should never be allowed to put itself in charge of social engineering. That never works in the long term and only serves to strip its constituents of their personal liberties. Just take a look at how our "war on drugs" is working out.
And btw, most states in the U.S. already have permitation systems of some sort for whatever exotic animals have made their "lists," most states never grant those to private individuals. Ever. Permitation systems may seem like a good idea in theory, however, only in theory.
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