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Old 01-14-2018, 10:14 PM   #11
nickolasanastasiou
Never said everyone or anything about you specifically, Mr. Assumption.
 
Old 01-14-2018, 11:08 PM   #12
Apeltes
I think I’d take it personally if someone said I was an outlet for smuggled animals. But I’m pretty sensitive. ;-)

Congrats on the sale, Richard!
 
Old 01-14-2018, 11:17 PM   #13
nickolasanastasiou
In my stupidity, I would like to offer high praise to a seller who would be so generous in a group price that the reseller could sell animals previously posted at $750+ for $500+. To ensure profitability, that would have had to have been very generous indeed.
 
Old 01-14-2018, 11:25 PM   #14
Robert Walker
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previously posted at $750+ for $500+
Even more generous as this group was listed at "$900 each".
So is the new seller 'Bingle': Lee Mike OR Mike Lee
Curious why he has not bothered to respond yet either?
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:12 AM   #15
Kfen
To clarify, they are CITES I
 
Old 01-15-2018, 10:01 AM   #16
Robert Walker
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Exporter I am constantly required to show proof that my activities are not detrimental to the survival of the species (of every type of CITES II animal I work with).
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To clarify, they are CITES I
https://cites.org/eng/app/appendices.php
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:02 PM   #17
evergladesboy
Richard, thank you for the clarification. I have been conned once, luckily for a few hundred bucks. But I know folks that have been taken for a lot more, up to $10,000! So I think paranoia runs deep! ANyways, just wanted to ask if you could share how you keep the parents? Do you allow them to hibernate?

Mike, do you still have them and how much are they?
 
Old 01-15-2018, 08:28 PM   #18
alternaguy
I have been following the IUCN Redlist. It has the Big Headed turtles listed as CITES II. http://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.20...585A7142204.en
 
Old 01-15-2018, 10:23 PM   #19
alternaguy
I just went to the CITES website and sure enough it appears, as of Oct. 04, 2017, the Big Headed turtles status has changed and is now listed as CITES I. I would like to thank kenf for bringing this to my attention. Laws change and sometimes they sneak up on you without being aware of the changes. Maybe the IUCN Redlist has not updated their website as of yet.
 
Old 01-15-2018, 11:06 PM   #20
Mighty J
Yet no one of the supposed sellers /owners has answered.....What continent were these born in?
 

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