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Old 07-06-2012, 11:44 PM   #21
Helenthereef
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the funny thing is ( and i loosely use the word funny ) all the eggs in there had a twin like an egg with in an egg.
Now that IS interesting - the entire clutch had double embryos?
 
Old 07-06-2012, 11:47 PM   #22
nickyp0
yes every one of them.

on a side note it looks like i did not have to put it down it just died on its own
 
Old 07-06-2012, 11:47 PM   #23
RobNJ
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or knife to the brain
My method of choice...I've put down thousands of lobsters and fish this way, and actually had to put a snake down last week due to severe developmental problems.

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Don't go half-assed. Make your strike count.
...do it with conviction.
 
Old 07-06-2012, 11:50 PM   #24
Helenthereef
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yes every one of them.

on a side note it looks like i did not have to put it down it just died on its own
Sad, but at least it eases the problem of how to do it....

Still VERY interested in what may have caused twins in the entire clutch. Were there any successful twin hatchings or were all the second embryos undeveloped?
 
Old 07-06-2012, 11:52 PM   #25
snowgyre
I'm sorry to hear that, but it's for the best and saved you from a grim task.

It is interesting that everything was a double embryo. It may be twinning, or it may be a malfunction of the shelling organ within the female. Once your babies emerge I would dissect the internal 'eggs' to see what they're composed of. If it's just fluid, then it's a shelling organ problem. If there's yolk, then the problem is a little more up the track. If it's actually got an embryo in there, either fertilized or unfertilized, now that would be interesting. I've never heard of this happening before.
 
Old 07-06-2012, 11:52 PM   #26
nickyp0
they were all under developed . just like the one in the pic.
 
Old 07-06-2012, 11:53 PM   #27
RobNJ
Maybe they were the yolks, and not undeveloped embryos.
 
Old 07-06-2012, 11:53 PM   #28
Focal
Do not use CO2 on reptiles!!!

http://www.avma.org/issues/animal_we...euthanasia.pdf
 
Old 07-06-2012, 11:55 PM   #29
nickyp0
once the neonate leaves the egg i will split the other egg open. and post my findings
 
Old 07-06-2012, 11:58 PM   #30
Helenthereef
Photos please , if you can bear it.
 

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