Sub sahara ball python

I just took a look at my hold back YB female from YB male x "Subsaharan" female.

She was born in June. She's 470 grams and as long as my arm.

For reference, my female firefly was born in June, eats the same amount of food, and is 250 grams.

Maybe I'm a boa guy here, and I have no interest in keeping or breeding bps, but I had to read this. All ball pythons are sub-saharan. This sounds like a selling gimmick to me.

Originally Posted by Kingofspades

I just took a look at my hold back YB female from YB male x "Subsaharan" female.

She was born in June. She's 470 grams and as long as my arm.

I have a fire male that was born in late August and is 450 grams.
Sub saharan? yep, as are all ball pythons.

Just got her Thursday last week. She has pretty large follicles. We'll be ultrasounding hopefully next week. I'm hoping she mated in the wild, and that she'll have a bunch of volts giants or subsaharan giants, however people want to name them. To any nay-sayers, it's absolutely, without question a MUCH larger than regular ball python. I can't wait for her to get really big!

For all we know, it's just her age that makes her large.

Another large, reproducing female yanked out of the wild for the sake of the almighty dollar. So sad.

I dont think that is the case as I have seen 20 yr old pythons. Yes they are big but the head is not as big as I have seen on these.

I've kept females over 3000 grams in 48x32x18" enclosures. I enjoy seeing the big girls stretch out though. With bigger snakes come bigger rodents and it was a lot less stressful for me to watch them have plenty of room to make a clean kill.

As for the sub-saharan debate, I'm not sure what the deal is, but I know I have seen some giant ball pythons that swamp my biggest girls, more than double the size. I don't know why, but if we saw this with other animals, say horses twice the size as normal, it would definitely stem some interest.

Thanks Nick for the advice on tub dimensions. Time will tell hopefully in 3 or 4 yrs I can see If this " big gene" gets passed to others or the naysayers are right there is no such thing as a giant ball

I'm also quite skeptical as the this whole situation. I would still like to see this head though. I have a 4000+ gram girl who is just a monster but IMO she is just a big ball.