Pet store robbery and Daytona show

Denise....Thank you for that information....I just contacted the company to see if they will send me some more info on their product, and to see if it's applicable for herps!

I'm just glad to see that a lot of other people are finally starting to see the light! EVERY store owner in the Tampa area knows exactly what the story is around here, and we also have very strong feelings about who is actually responsible for this rash of burglaries...we just can't prove it...YET! ....Neil

John & emaraldguy , did not mean to confuse any one , i stated that i WAS in the retail & never
got hit, we now are wholesale, and did lose the bunch of turtles, these were from the farm in it big time sticks, not a store in pop. area, we now broker turtles, and raise snakes
just sold the old farm & bought a new farm, we do not allow many people to come to the farm,
retail was in savannah , Ga
we are now located in the Fla panhandle
Gene

For one i'm not Dave's running boy im his friend. I do shows with him, and just so I know what info did I try to get out of you. I heard my name being spread around that I had something to do with the burglery's and wanted to clear things up. And do tell my how in the he!! in not a loyal person please do tell.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">then have your little running boy jason ,who I talked to for 30 minutes call me and try to get all this info,{and by the way}he is not as loyal as you think.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

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I never said he had info on a green truck, I said I heard there was a green truck involved. All I know is my name is being involved in this and the only reason I see is because im friends with Dave and thats the way it will stay.

OH PLEASE!!!! aren't you the one who said that you were not going to do business with lawson anymore?and aren't you the one who said that the motel said they saw a green truck loading our stuff up?and I also recall you saying that you worked for amazon reptiles ....if so why were you not listed as an employee?and why is yor name always coming up as lawsons little buddy that does his deals...Let me tell ya something....If you want to cover your a.. thats fine.But do not come on here trying to make me look bad because it will not work.The police didn't even know about agreen truck and the rodent manwas here saying that you told him that I tod you.....Idon't even know you.....

First off you prove how honest you are by using a fake name,(webslave should be deleting).

1) Neil was trying to sell the 13' female abp on kingsnake and once your story was posted by Jenny neil deleted the for sale post. fishy? you bet.I was not trying to sell the snakes you talked about.some bad info to you. But I am sure that Jeff of kingsnake.com will produce a copy of neil's post,you know the one where he said he was selling them for friends moving out of state.

2)You (Peg) along with Neil, Ray and Jenny have been elling anyone dumb enough to listen that Jason and me did all this robberies and that we were going to be arrested.Well I call each and every police detective and ask if I should turn myself in due to what you 3 have been saying.Their response was for me to get a attorney and take all 3 of you to civil court because all of you are lying.A lt. from game and fish said that they do not listen to people with personal vendettas against me.None of them wanted to check out me home,all of them said I was not a suspect.

3)Pasco co. detective was at a pet shop and I was sitting in the back room he did not want to talk to me.The reason he was there is due to the fact that you Peg told them that they were selling your stolen snakes.That story did not hold water.

4)You lied Peg by saying that you had that abp since it was a baby,the truth is you bought it 4 montha ago for $250 but you said on tv it was worth $1,000.You lied when you said that $8,000 to $10,000 worth of reptiles were taken.In the 4 years I've known you you have never had more then $500 in reptiles in there.You did say that you blame the expo for the break ins now granted you may have meant it another way but you said it wrong.

5)By trying to convice the cops that I have committed these crimes you have aided the true crooks to get away to do it over again and again. GOOD JOB GUYS!!!!!!!!

6)I have no trouble with any other shop in the area other then them repeating what they have heard from one of you 3,but they keep buying animal from me.


Now to close,I really do not care anymore about this thread due to the it is starting to ture in to a he said she said bunch of crap.But a word to the wise Peg did come on here under a false name refer to the post by "the mouth" re-read them,Would you beleive anything from her "mouth"? Maybe I will call channel 13 news and have them interview people and show them how honest (?) you were in the interview you had them air,I think they will be interested,don't you?

DAVE DAVE DAVE....THIS IS NOT PEG..THIS IS LILL.YOU KNOW WHO I AM.The 13 foot snake neil was selling was sold and we saw him,he does not have any scars.
&nbsp;I was not the one who brought jason and you into this.neither was peg.
&nbsp;The pasco county detectives said no such thing.
&nbsp; The pet store was brought up to the cops by 2 other store owners.
&nbsp; And as for the 500. dollar comment,You keep talking about the news show,well you must not have been watching well because the animals that we have had to buy are worth more and we still have empty tanks.
&nbsp; And we sure would be interested in finding a 13 foot albino female that is 8 years old and can be heldby anyone for 250.00.
&nbsp; AND for my closing....the reporter was called by an anonymous caller...they taped 25 minutes worth of stuff and they picked what they wanted to play.Haven't you ever heard the expession you should believe half of what you hear?and you should know first hand that news articles really don't do people justice now do they? &nbsp; LILL NOT PEG SHE IS MY BOSS

First of all....all those snakes that I was selling for a "friend"...were LYMAN'S!! Remember him, Dave??? There were about 6 large burms (the largest being 9&#39<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>...go ahead, Dave...I DEFY you to have Jeff repull that post!! That first night about half the snakes and lizards sold....every email I got I gave them Lyman's phone number and he took it from there! I was tired of getting multiple emails for the animals so I pulled the ad...period! He was selling them very cheaply, ergo the many emails! So, where did you come up with that story?

Now...why don't you answer the question about the 14' abp and the Albino Boa? ....Neil

Ok, Is anyone else confussed here? First "MOUTH" burst onto the thread with

</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>Okay I think everybody is missing the point.For the last 3 years there has been many places robbed.All around august.WE have all heard the stories-rumors-B.S about what happens at the shows with the stealing with customers-dealers.The reality of it all is the{BIG}Show is at the same time.That is what the story was all about.As for knowing which snakes are yours and are not well pictures and D.N.A can prove that so can scale clipping.Before everyone gets in an uproar I think we should all look at the source of this blaming topic.If I recall correctly the person who is throwing the blame for making reptile shows get a bad reputation is the one who makes headlines in the paper for stealing reptiles.{I know not guilty}

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lill greene
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Please do not give Dave anymore names to throw around and make look bad I think he has done enough damage here.Peg actually liked Dave I don't know why but she did.Me personally do not I never have.I have a problem with people who are always passing the blame and causing problems.And as for stories changing boy have I heard them change.Peg may just be a little Pet store but 5 of the animals stolen were not for sale they were pets that we use for educating the public,we go to schools and daycares,we go to town get-to-togethers and try to explain how to care and be responsible owners of these awsome creatures.
&nbsp; &nbsp; DAVE what I don't understand is why the he!! YOU would be trying to pass off the big girl{abp}and a albino boa.To a local dealer,then have your little running boy jason ,who I talked to for 30 minutes call me and try to get all this info,{and by the way}he is not as loyal as you think.Then out of the blue he tells me that you got info about a green truck that was never here,And that you and all you groupies tell this other customer that Neil and this rodent dealer have the green truck blah blah blah.Why would you even be that far into it if you were not involved.And for your info......Peg never thought it was you until you had that snake and wanted to sell it for"350. or 100.just to get it off your hands"
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;and as for this list he saw I have no idea which one he saw OHHHH! MAYBE IT WAS THE FAKE ONE WE SENT TO A PERSON WHO SAID THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHO DAVE LAWSON WAS???THANX THAT INFO WAS HELPFUL....
&nbsp;AND for all of you that have been on here.the snake story was in the paper last december.If you would like a copy all you have to do is call any reptile dealer in tampa and they would be more than happy to send you a copy.

&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;LIKE THEY SAY::GIVE THEM ENOUGH ROPE AND THEY WILL HANG THEMSELVES.........</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Again signed Lill greene.Notice the way she talks of Peg in the third person.

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Posted on Aug. 12 2002,12:35
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Well I guess it's about time for me to speak for myself. I'm logged in under mouth bur rest assured it's me PEG. O.K. first I didn'tblame the DAYTONA show. I just think its amazing that last year and this year at the same time I got robbed and how ever is doing this has to have a outlet and show and other places that you can sell alot of animals what better place and for all you HONEST people out there be on notice. As far as the cops not going well DAVE you no not know my FRIENDS do you. Also no not be calling my MOM trying to find out my home #. Yea all he did that all of sudden he forgot my store # it has'nt changed. 813-991-9811 just in case you did have a brain fart. I am not the only store in this area that got robbed. Two other store got hit the same week as I did and I think if we all put as much effort in trying to find out how is doing this. As everyone is feeding DAVE's Sickness in trying to start crap then maybe we can but and end to all this mess.
Well I won't be back on because I don't usually don't commet to this stuff. But You know the DOG THAT BARKS THE LOUDEST IS THE ONE YOU HAVE TO WATCH YOUR BACK ON.

Peg(Peg's Exotic Pets)
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Here she admitts that Lill Greene was a fake name But in fact it is Peg posting under "mouth"

Now it gets scary

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">She flips over to being this Lill Greene person again.I have only 1 question,How many other people are in there?

That is true honesty.

I am sure that I have answered that question several times.

Truth? You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you! You know darn well that there are two people there, just trying to start trouble and avert attention again, huh...
Why don't you answer the question about where you got the 14' abp and the albino boa?? Do you think we're going to forget about that question?? Who did you buy them from? Do you have a receipt? Post them? Yeah, right! ....Neil