Question regarding champagne combos.

Since I'm trying to remain fairly small on number of ball pythons I am wanting to work with, I wanted to know if there are any champagne combos that are bad. I know champagne x champagne is a no go, and I've heard champagne spider has had issues, but don't know the extent of those issues. Are there any other bad combos to avoid?

Currently my only 2 ball pythons are .1 pastel lesser and 1. champagne pinstripe het red axanthic. I don't think I'll be adding any other males for the time being, but may add a female or two.

Thanks for any input on this.

I believe champagne x HGW is also no go. I would ask someone more knowledgeable about champagne x sable/chocolate before attempting it. The pair you have now (champin het red x lesser pastel) should not have any problems and in fact produce some very nice combos. If you are thinking of adding an additional female, consider a coral/banana combo. They look great with the champagne.

Thanks for the reply. I did find something saying the spider x champagne combos all die shortly after hatching, when they do hatch. The hgw is good to know about as are the potential with sable/chocolates. I am leaning toward a banana as they are beautiful by themselves, and the banana combos I'd be most interested in won't implement anything known to be poor choices for champs.

Thanks again.

Originally Posted by Randall Turner

I am leaning toward a banana

Albinos Unlimited picture, not mine. Champ x Banana = okay in my opinion. Kinda of blah.
Jon's Jungle Picture, not mine. Champ x Banana/Enchi = much better when Enchi tightens up the pattern, again just my opinion.

Good luck either way

Great, the enchi champs themselves seem to be really variable and good looking, not surprised the banana version looks that nice. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Randall Turner

enchi champs themselves seem to be really variable and good looking,

I agree with your conclusion.

I have seen that champagne enchi banana of Jon's in person, WOW! So stunning. The only thing that kept me from buying it was that I can and will make it. I could not stop looking at it, and I am not a big fan of champagne stuff.

Originally Posted by Randy F

I have seen that champagne enchi banana of Jon's in person, WOW! So stunning. The only thing that kept me from buying it was that I can and will make it. I could not stop looking at it, and I am not a big fan of champagne stuff.

I bet it was, in person makes a difference on so many of the different combos. It'd be nice to see an update of its looks as it grows.

Been looking into champagne combos myself since I just acquired a champagne female. I currently have a mystic potion male, any idea what would come of that breeding? Has anyone ever seen a mystic champagne?

mystic potion x champagne would produce 25% each (statistically): mystic, Mojave, mystic champagne and Mojave champagne. The potion would ensure no normals.