Pet store robbery and Daytona show

Will the truth EVER be seen again?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?? spam_there has been more fingerpointing , i know you are what am i's then a preschool playground over you two guys the last months.Can or will anyone ever be proven GUILTY of these break-ins , and then will that really clear the other person?i have seen questions spam_either go unanswered by both parties or turned around to make them a question of there own choosings.It very obvious the "majority here" have spam_seen enough of this all and probably have forgot why it all started .. i know i was one of many who looked for answers in a fog lit room that were never answered, never will be . but for once can both parties spam_bring only FACTS to the table that can be proved by you ( by any means) or a 3rd person that will not say dont say my last name or buisness , i can understand why they would say that spam_after the whirlwind of names and items envolved here in this thread at this point one would think to risk being scooted to the dark side of the table for knowing anything about this .But all blue million threads that mention ither parties at stake here all say verbatium th same NOTHING factual to prove beyond a REASONABLE doubt who is behind this yet so far all the "star witnesses " have not prevailed in making it over with yet nor in the near future someone should contact a screen writer on this .. im sure it would make for very entertaining daytime TV ...As the Herp world turns....

Alan...You know this is a free country! If you don't like reading the he said / he said stuff...very easy...don't come on here and don't read these threads! How easy is that? I seem to remember, however, a bunch of times you've emailed me in the past and asked me not to tell anyone what you just told me....how does that differ from what you just said? Why do you think cops bring people in for pure questioning? To get to the facts....they have no (or very little) proof to go on at that stage, just suspicions, but, they bring them in anyway...Am I to assume that you think John Gotti and Al Capone were nice guys?...THEY were never PROVEN to be doing the things that they were accused of?? Does that make them innocent now? Or should everybody just leave them alone cause they have no solid proof?
If I start going overboard...I'm SURE Rich will let me know it, then, he'll either tell me to shut up, or he'll block me from posting....either way...I feel IN THIS INSTANCE ON THIS THREAD....I AM doing the right thing by not letting Dave muddy up the waters with innuendo and false statements....I want to know where he got those two snakes from? Is that such a tough question for ANY "honest" person to answer? It sure seems to be a tough question for him to answer, though! It's pretty obvious to me (and others) that he CAN'T answer that question, because he knows EXACTLY where they came from! Don't you, ...."Mr. Lawson"! ....Neil

OKAY HERES THE LIST THAT WAS PRINTED UP WHEN THE DETECTIVES WERE HERE.DAVE DO YA HAVE YOUR CALCULATOR?12 BABY BOAS{MOM WAS COL. DAD WAS SURN}08 BABY BERMS..12 BABY SPUR THIGHS..2 9 INCH SPURS.2 RED FOOTS..05 BLK AND GOLD TEGUS{THE ONE WITH THE MISSING FOOT WAS OR PET}10 BUBBLE GUM BABIES..1 TANGERINE...40 BEARDED DRAGON EGGS 1 WEEK LEFT..12 VEILED EGGS 30 MORE DAYS GIVE OR TAKE A FEW..5 COASTAL KING..1 SNOW CORN...1 ANTH CORN...1 DESERT PHASE..2 PAIRS OF MALIS..08 BABY BALLS..1 PERUVIAN RED-TAIL BABY...04 ADULT BALLS..03 TOKAYS..01 BOX TURTLE..2 ADULT LEOPARDS..OUR BIG GIRL....03 TEN GALLON TANKS..01 20 GALLON LONG...01 20 GALLON SCREEN..03 TEN GALLON SCREENS...
&nbsp; &nbsp; JOE DID CALL ABOUT THE ABP AND THE ALBINO,HE ALSO TALKED TO THE DETECTIVE.
&nbsp; &nbsp;THE GREEN TRUCK WAS BROUGHT UP BY JASON/DAVE NOONE ELSE KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT IT..
&nbsp; &nbsp;WHY ARE YOU SO PARANOID????AND WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT NEWS CHANNEL 13 IS GOING TO DO YOU ANY JUSTICE ON T.V HOW ARE YOU GOING TO OPEN THE TOPIC??

I don't even understand why Dave would go on TV about the robbery in the first place.

Woops, hit the wrong button. &nbsp;I apologize.

So we will all know, and so those down in Tampa can tune in and tape it for themselves, when will you be interviewed by Channel 13, and when will it air?

HMMM <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> NEIL!</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Alan...You know this is a free country! If you don't like reading the he said / he said stuff...very easy...don't come on here and don't read these threads! How easy is that? I seem to remember, however, a bunch of times you've emailed me in the past and asked me not to tell anyone what you just told me....how does that differ from what you just said? </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
ok please do refresh my memory ! i have emailed you on occasions ... spam_yes but the only thing i remember telling you not to spam_tell anyone was on the cage i was going to send you before all this broke loose ?? and at that it was only on the $ you were going to receive it for ? spam_now is that what you have reffered to ? spam_i by no means have ever made contact to say anything about anyone i wont visibly state myself i have nothing to hide from . spam_but for the claim you MADE OF ME ON THE "DONT SAY WHO SAID " THEROY spam_James thornton was the topic then i think i was very outspoken on his dealings with poeple here spam_so please Neil lets clarify the situation spam_in which i was suppose to have said anything spam_you stated spam_as being " hearsay"
and dont take this aggressive Neil i have not made or passed any judgement on you or Dave over all this other then thinking what a mess it has been for you both ... thanks ... good day

Hi All! spam_I can't hold back any longer. spam_To Dave.... spam_As stated before many times, you always seem to be in the thick of things when they happen. spam_You always want to call the cops and insurance companies and NOW the news?? spam_You act like a BIG BABY, why don't you start calling everyones parents and telling on them?? (Ooops, tried that one before, huh?) spam_Then you could sit back with your pacifier and watch Blues Clues or something and actually enjoy life. spam_You seem to always be involved with all tha BAD STUFF. spam_You have been asked questions about many thing and never seem to answer them. spam_When you do answer them, you blatently lie and make up stories about something else. spam_I don't know you from Abe, and really never care to, but from everything you've exposed yourself and what others have exposed of you, you are about as guilty as they get. spam_Yes, I said you are guilty, in my opinion. spam_Guilty of what, you ask?? spam_Guilty of putting your nose where it doesn't belong, guilty of not answering questions when asked, guilty of being a bawl baby, guilty of breaking the rules of this site, guilty of not knowing when to shut up, guilty of accusing others with no ground to stand on, guilty of being guilty, and the list goes on, probably could use the rest of the bandwith on this site if I had the time!!
spam_God knows if you have done wrong and will surely hand down justice in the end, no way around that one, Dave. spam_Like others have said, you always seem to try to vindicate yourself whenever something happens, even when nobody has involved/accused you. spam_That in itself is a sure sign of guilt! spam_
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spam_To all of the pet shop owners in the Tampa area....
spam_Surely you are all tired of being robbed. spam_As it has been said before, the cops will only do so much. spam_Why don't ALL of you with an interest in this business put your money where your mouth is and hire a real PI to investigate all these burglaries? spam_I know with all the BS with the James Thornton ordeal, PI's are'nt the most popular topic, but there have to be some good ones in your area. spam_Heck, if I had the money I'd hire one myself just to put an end to all this bickering and make this world a better place. spam_Sell some animals, do a car wash to raise money, do some raffles for animals, do something to raise money to put an end to this. spam_The burglar/burglars surely aren't fool proof, if they were they'd move on to banks or something. spam_Nobody is perfect, catch them while you can!

spam_These are my opinions and nothing else. spam_Dave, start a legal fund, the way it seems, you'll need one in the future.
spam_Bob

Alan...I'm sorry if I implied something else...but, since YOU brought it up....your example is EXACTLY what I was referring to....the price you were giving me the enclosure for....the point being, if someone asks you for your confidence...you shouldn't break it...I was asked not to mention names, so I didn't...I would have liked it better if they had the "ability" to speak for themselves, but, they choose not to....what can I do but to do as they ask? That's just what I did with you? To be honest with you...I would have thought you would WANT someone who was willing to put his neck on the line to try and help others by doing the right thing? Every thread I've ever posted to, I've done nothing different! I've given my opinions and (if needed or asked), I've given all the help I could (whether it cost me a couple of bucks or not), you know it, you've seen it....
This thread is no different, Peg's was robbed, she's in my area, she makes a statement to the press, Dave comes on and blows it way out of proportion, then starts his usual blaming everyone for everything and diverting the thread, I'm still just trying to keep it in perspective....when he STILL hasn't answered the question about the snakes??

This might not change your opinion of me, but, that's not my goal at this point, I am who I am, and I'm not going to change...I'm too old (and maybe to crotchety) for that...all I can say is...."If I can help, I will...If I can't, I'll try!" ....Neil

after reading all of this, all I can say is:

WOW...note to self, NEVER move to FL.

Granted, watching Dave dig himself deeper is amusing, but enough already. Neil, please stop needling him...he already has enough rope to hang himself in this life and the next 3. If he can actually continue to deal in the herp industry after all this, I'll truly be amazed. It is interesting how he seems to be involved in all the dirty little problems down there.

I'm really wishing I had the time and cash to go to Daytona this year...guess I'll get my laughs at SD.

Nicole....I'd be more than happy to do that, if he'd just answer that one question? It's not a hard question? He doesn't even need visual proof...just TELL US who you bought them from....how easy is that?
Peg has asked him, I have asked him, Lill has asked him, along with a couple of other clever individuals who've watched him side-step the question, have also asked him....and we haven't even gotten to the "Green Truck" he accused me of having, yet! I want to hear about the snakes first!

There won't be any problem in Daytona or at the Tampa show....I'm not a physically confrontational sort of guy....I probably couldn't kick my way out of a paper bag....but, I don't pretend that I can, either....besides...as much as he'd probably like to...I don't even think Dave is that stupid to hit me in public? So...don't go to the shows because you think you're going to see fireworks, because it aint gonna happen! AT least, not on my part!

Now that that issue is resolved...how bout answering the question, Dave? ....Neil