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Old 10-06-2008, 11:59 AM   #1
homegrownherps
No hamsters or exotic pets for young kids...

Doctors: No hamsters or exotic pets for young kids By LINDSEY TANNER, AP Medical Writer
Mon Oct 6, 7:43 AM ET

CHICAGO - Warning: young children should not keep hedgehogs as pets — or hamsters, baby chicks, lizards and turtles, for that matter — because of risks for disease.

That's according to the nation's leading pediatricians' group in a new report about dangers from exotic animals.

Besides evidence that they can carry dangerous and sometimes potentially deadly germs, exotic pets may be more prone than cats and dogs to bite, scratch or claw — putting children younger than 5 particularly at risk, the report says.

Young children are vulnerable because of developing immune systems plus they often put their hands in their mouths.

That means families with children younger than 5 should avoid owning "nontraditional" pets. Also, kids that young should avoid contact with these animals in petting zoos or other public places, according to the report from the American Academy of Pediatrics. The report appears in the October edition of the group's medical journal, Pediatrics.

"Many parents clearly don't understand the risks from various infections" these animals often carry, said Dr. Larry Pickering, the report's lead author and an infectious disease specialist at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

For example, about 11 percent of salmonella illnesses in children are thought to stem from contact with lizards, turtles and other reptiles, Pickering said. Hamsters also can carry this germ, which can cause severe diarrhea, fever and stomach cramps.

Salmonella also has been found in baby chicks, and young children can get it by kissing or touching the animals and then putting their hands in their mouths, he said.

Study co-author Dr. Joseph Bocchini said he recently treated an infant who got salmonella from the family's pet iguana, which was allowed to roam freely in the home. The child was hospitalized for four weeks but has recovered, said Bocchini, head of the academy's infectious diseases committee and pediatrics chairman at Louisiana State University in Shreveport.

Hedgehogs can be dangerous because their quills can penetrate skin and have been known to spread a bacteria germ that can cause fever, stomach pain and a rash, the report said.

With supervision and precautions like hand-washing, contact between children and animals "is a good thing," Bocchini said. But families should wait until children are older before bringing home an exotic pet, he said.

Those who already have these pets should contact their veterinarians about specific risks and possible new homes for the animals, he said.

Data cited in the study indicate that about 4 million U.S. households have pet reptiles. According to the American Veterinary Medical Association, all kinds of exotic pets are on the rise, although generally fewer than 2 percent of households own them.

The veterinarian group's Mike Dutton, a Weare, N.H., exotic animal specialist, said the recommendations send an important message to parents who sometimes buy exotic pets on an impulse, "then they ask questions, sometimes many months later."

But a spokesman for the International Hedgehog Association said there's no reason to single out hedgehogs or other exotic pets.

"Our recommendation is that no animal should be a pet for kids 5 and under," said Z.G. Standing Bear. He runs a rescue operation near Pikes Peak, Colo., for abandoned hedgehogs, which became fad pets about 10 years ago.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081006/...ed_exotic_pets
 
Old 10-06-2008, 12:42 PM   #2
Heykid
Might as well just put your kid in a frickin' bubble. Now hamsters are going to kill them!

I had hamsters, mice, chickens and other random animals for pets when I was little and I'm not dead. Kids are going to get sick, they are going to get hurt. It's all part of the experience of life. If you shelter you kid too much, you're going to end up with a kid who is afraid of everything! I'm not saying go throw your kid out into traffic or anything, but come on! Hamsters?

That's just my thoughts anyway.
 
Old 10-06-2008, 01:04 PM   #3
TheFragginDragon
To be honest, I don't have a problem with this, as any child 5 or under is (normally) incapable of tending to the needs of any pet. The only responsibilities a kid that age should have to focus on is to eat, sleep, learn to use the toilet, and play-play-play!!!
 
Old 10-06-2008, 01:11 PM   #4
ToshaMc
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Originally Posted by TheFragginDragon View Post
To be honest, I don't have a problem with this, as any child 5 or under is (normally) incapable of tending to the needs of any pet. The only responsibilities a kid that age should have to focus on is to eat, sleep, learn to use the toilet, and play-play-play!!!

What they are saying is that you as an adult should not have any of these animals in your house if you have a child under the age of 5.
 
Old 10-06-2008, 01:14 PM   #5
TheFragginDragon
Well....that's very different! Never mind! (In my best Emily Latella accent)
Sorry, I missed that part, i gotta cut out the caffiene!
 
Old 10-06-2008, 01:53 PM   #6
Clay Davenport
These kinds of recommendations are basically knee jerk suggestions based on anecdotal evidence and unfounded assumptions.
Yes, you can get salmonella from reptiles. I don't see these doctors suggesting you not feed your kids chicken though.
Problems are avoided by basic common sense practices which do not require complete avoidance. It's at that young age that kids need to be exposed to unusual wildlife the most so that the interest and appreciation can be fostered in them before the learned fears are developed.

I have snakes that are older than my nearly 16 year old son. He was born into a house with around 80 snakes in it at the time and has lived with around fifty different species of reptiles and I couldn't guess at the total number of animals.
He's been touching and handling all manner of reptiles since he was a year old and began to show interest.
To our knowledge, neither he nor any of the rest of the family has ever had a case of salmonella or any other sickness related to the reptiles.

The point being, to suggest that no one with a child under five should keep any reptile is over reactive and a completely unnecessary suggestion.
The child mentioned in the article that was hospitalized did not get sick because the family had the iguana, it got sick because his parents were too stupid to have it caged and away from the child.
It's nothing more than the doctors catering to the lowest common denominator. Because some people are genuine morons who probably shouldn't have animals regardless of whether they have children or not, they make the sweeping statement that NO ONE with children should have reptiles, when the truth is that reptiles can safely live in the same house as children if very basic precautions are followed and the child's formative years will be enriched because of it.
 
Old 10-06-2008, 03:48 PM   #7
Wraith
so no pets because they might have salmonella. Gee.. all animals have some strain or other of salmonella - including cats and dogs and other "normal" pets - not just exotics. Hell, humans can infect others with salmonella too - not just limited to animals infecting people. Guess that means doctors should start recommending that we shouldn't have children in the household either <g>
 
Old 10-06-2008, 10:39 PM   #8
John E Dove
I heard the same thing on our local news this morning but they went on to explain that young children were more susceptible to diseases from exotics because their immune systems were not yet fully developed and young children were more likely to ignore common safety precautions.
 
Old 10-10-2008, 01:34 PM   #9
Sena Dragontooth
Exclamation Hmmm...Sounds like the same old song and dance...

On the topic of children younger than 5, I agree. They do not have the attention span enough to understand the responsibility to care for a reptile or other "nontraditional" pets. However, on the topic of salmonella, people have been freaking about that for years, blaming turtles and lizards for it. Once again, age does factor in, but as a child gets older, many parents become too afraid to let their children BREATHE around them, that these animals are demonized as the thing that that could kill them. I will tell you this: I have been catching wild herps and have had many reptilian and amphibious pets my PARENTS bought for me. I am a strange girl by many standards, because I can kiss and cuddle my reptiles, and guess what? They don't (intentionally) scratch and/or bite me. I've been bitten once by a snake (on the face, mind you) and not a mark was left, never even got inflamed; it wasn't even my snake! I've been bitten by one of those supposed "disease carriers", a nile monitor. Once again, no inflammation, not even the hint of infection.

I think a lot of this stems from the proported fear of germs that the government and media have portrayed. It's become a nightmare to let your kid get a cold or a scrape and just let it run its course. Children are not gaining the immunities they need to keep a common cold from becoming much worse. Maybe I'm just lucky that I haven't gotten sick, but I'm pretty sure that the fact of my parents allowing me to play in the dirt and catch lizards, turtles, and frogs, climb in trees, etc...is the reason I haven't been beaten down by the salmonella bug. Whatever, parents will learn soon enough, keeping your kids on the proverbial bubble will do nothing but hurt.
 
Old 10-16-2008, 03:21 PM   #10
Benji
I feel more and more like we are on the brink of personal responsibility being completely forgotten in this country. The report reads as though a parent's only involvement in a child's safety should be to eliminate things from their lives that are dangerous. "Don't let your child have nontraditional pets because it's not your job to supervise them and keep them out of trouble. It's your job to eliminate all risks and teach your child that the world will take care of them." Flash forward 30 years to a lawyer's office, "My parents never gave me hot cocoa before it was cool enough to drink. That McDonald's coffee burned me and they didn't even warn me it would be hot."
 

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