I am confused

HGW.

Hidden gene woma.

Ok what does it mean? I am totally ignorant to this meaning. Can someone explain this to me at a fifth grade level? [That is why I never got into this type of animal.]

I hear people say that this animal can and does show that it has this trait. If you can look at an animal and KNOW it has the hidden gene then why is it called hidden?
If you look at any heterozygous animal such as albino, axanthic, or pieds they all look normal yet they all carry the "hidden gene" for the visual morph. If you breed heterozygous animal to a heterozygous animal you will get out of four eggs one visual morph and three sixty six percent heterozygous. [two heterozygous and one normal. We can not tell what one carries the gene for the above morph.]
So back to my question is what does a normal woma look like and what does a hidden gene woma look like? Pictures please.

The hidden gene woma is a single mutation snake...just like the normal woma. Separate and different, but similar.

There was confusion when the woma and hidden gene woma first came about since they looked similar, hence the odd name. It was thought they had a hidden gene, then later understood as basically being co dom. It creates crazy animals, but a normal from a hidden gene woma is still a normal, it will not carry some random hidden genetic trait

But at this point, its kinda like Het Reds...everyone knows they are co dom, not recessive. They just got named funny.

Normal Woma



Normal Woma



Hidden Gene Woma



Kevin's Original Hidden Gene Woma female that started it all.



They ARE similar...but also clearly different

Originally Posted by Willow

The hidden gene woma is a single mutation snake...just like the normal woma. Separate and different, but similar.

There was confusion when the woma and hidden gene woma first came about since they looked similar, hence the odd name. It was thought they had a hidden gene, then later understood as basically being co dom. It creates crazy animals, but a normal from a hidden gene woma is still a normal, it will not carry some random hidden genetic trait

But at this point, its kinda like Het Reds...everyone knows they are co dom, not recessive. They just got named funny.

Ok so now I ask what is the difference. Is it obvious?
BTW a pastel is a heterozygous animal. It has a super form.

I beg to differ you said different. Tell me what is different. I still do not get it.

Originally Posted by BallBoutique

BTW a pastel is a heterozygous animal. It has a super form.

I know that? lol I own a super pastel

Are you telling me you cannot see a difference in those photos?

The HGW super is a lethal combo called the Pearl...bad news! It has serious issues and must be culled.

The difference to me is the "hidden gene". Like Willow said, it isn't necessarily hidden, but that's how I think about it to keep it simple in my head. A normal woma bred to a Lesser will make you Lesser Woma's. Cool snake and everything, but still an average combo, IMO. When you breed a HGW to a Lesser you get a Soul Sucker. <----That is the difference.

I can't post pics now but if someone could post a Lesser Woma, compared to a Soul Sucker, you will see.

I believe Kevin called it a Hidden gene Woma because of the fact it looks very similar to a Woma, yet once added to other gene's it is clear it's on a whole other level.

Hope this helps a bit.
Pictures will be your best bet.

Originally Posted by Willow

Are you telling me you cannot see a difference in those photos?

You are correct.

Normal Lesser Woma


Hidden Gene Woma Lesser