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General Herp Talk Can't figure out where to post down in the other discussion forums? Too many options and too complicated? Well post your herp related messages here and to heck with it. |
11-12-2014, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ericka
Don't know if you've ever been to an animal shelter to adopt a pet, but even there you have to pay an adoption fee, and its still considered a rescue. Maybe find a better argument? If an animal is taken and put into a better environment its a rescue. Nothing in life is free.
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If it's a legit shelter, that adoption fee should be a 501c tax deductible donation, which is different than a taxable sales of livestock.
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11-12-2014, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Siukie
Seems I posted in the section that was mislabeled "General Herp Talk". Seems to be the "Business Critics" section. If you want to debate how Petco will/won't be shut down or reprimanded for it's actions, you might want to make a new thread? Yeah?
I was not requesting a debate on my actions, only showing you the little ball I picked up tonight. I just don't think individuals need to go out of their way to point out someone made a stupid choice in a very indirect manner. As I said, Petco is always going to be around like any other chain pet store. It's perfectly alright if you would prefer to leave animals in distress, to each their own. Simply saying I don't disregard animal life to balance a purchase war between stores and their customers.
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It's not necessarily your action that has frustrated us, it's your attitude. We all care for animals here. No one will disagree that the snake was improperly cared for. By saying "It's perfectly alright if you would prefer to leave animals in distress, to each their own," you are essentially trying to smear the characters of people who disagree with your actions on very solid ethical grounds. This is an immature, defensive behavior to try and defend what you did.
Think about it from the store manager's perspective. You just taught him that he can sell more snakes if he keeps them in deplorable conditions because he will always make a pity-sale. Even worse, you've probably encouraged him to keep the snakes in such poor conditions, because it would cost money in terms of training employees, enforcing proper quarantine, and providing veterinary care for affected animals.
The better way to go about this is to complain to the corporate office, write a letter to the editor to your local newspaper, just make noise in general. You saved one snake, and doomed many others to death. The road to hell is paved with the best of intentions. You made a mistake and this is okay, but ONLY if you learn from it.
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11-12-2014, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ericka
Don't know if you've ever been to an animal shelter to adopt a pet, but even there you have to pay an adoption fee, and its still considered a rescue. Maybe find a better argument? If an animal is taken and put into a better environment its a rescue. Nothing in life is free.
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The shelter where I got my current cat doesn't charge for adult animals. They charge an adoption fee for kittens, which is a charitable donation as outlined by Agoralyx.
Where I'm from we call that an "adoption", and like you said, it's often accompanied by a fee. The only people I hear calling that process a "rescue" are people in it for the positive attention that word brings them. Someone at the shelter already did the "rescuing", to whatever degree.
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11-12-2014, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Occidentalis
The only people I hear calling that process a "rescue" are people in it for the positive attention that word brings them. Someone at the shelter already did the "rescuing", to whatever degree.
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You may be onto something. Kinda hard to take this chick's word very seriously, since she's done the mite song and dance before. Oddly enough, she decided to disappear when some discrepancies were pointed out.
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru....php?p=1629831
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11-12-2014, 10:43 PM
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If you're on FB there's a post now about a BP at the Bravo Ft Wayne, IN Petco in similar shape - dehydrated, thin, stuck shed, RI, and mouth rot. OP didn't buy it, but Petco corporate will have a lot of emails from PO'ed people from around the country tomorrow morning.
I understand the sentiment of wanting to get an animal out of a bad situation like that, but the seller shouldn't be rewarded. Either get the store nailed for neglect by the authorities, or raise such a stink right there in front of the customers that they just give you the poor thing to make you shut up and go away.
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11-12-2014, 10:52 PM
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#16
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Originally Posted by Ericka
Don't know if you've ever been to an animal shelter to adopt a pet, but even there you have to pay an adoption fee, and its still considered a rescue.
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Usually those fees cover vet care such as vaccinations and spay/neuter. The rescue isn't profiting from the adoption.
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11-12-2014, 11:39 PM
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That snake looks pretty healthy to me. Doesn't look like it's suffered too much nor been neglected, starved or otherwise abused. Sorry, but I have to concur; that pretty little Ball did not come from a shelter or true rescue. You walked into a retail store and purchased a snake at retail cost. Not exactly a "rescue", IMO.
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11-13-2014, 12:48 AM
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#18
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Originally Posted by Fangthane
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Well, being around Fauna long enough you do realize people like to nit-pick. I make my statement and set the facts of how things happened, what others choose to do from there is not really in my hands. Same as this thread, the simple idea of getting a new snake and sharing it with the current forum might seem like a harmless thing to do, but people like to put in their 2 cents and look for flaws in everything. That is just how mankind is sadly. As far as my word goes, pretty sure you won't find anyone on Fauna that has ever found me to be anything but trustworthy and honest. But again, that being said i'm sure people would try to find anyone they "could" to hold my statement against me, as that is part of the games on the forums.
I don't participate in cat fights. So if threads get too out of hand I do not participate in them at that point. I was not looking to create drama with this thread, but it seems to have done so regardless.
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11-13-2014, 01:09 AM
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#19
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Originally Posted by Siukie
As far as my word goes, pretty sure you won't find anyone on Fauna that has ever found me to be anything but trustworthy and honest.
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You mean other than Cameron Alexander and those who asked you to back up your claims with the proof you claimed to have?
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Originally Posted by Siukie
I don't participate in cat fights.
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Yeah, I kinda got that about you. You're more the qickly-scurry-off-after-getting-caugh-in-a-lie type.
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11-13-2014, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Fangthane
You mean other than Cameron Alexander and those who asked you to back up your claims with the proof you claimed to have?
Yeah, I kinda got that about you. You're more the qickly-scurry-off-after-getting-caugh-in-a-lie type.
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Sorry, but I don't have any catnip for ya friend.:eatpointe
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