Mack Snow Pricing... ridiculous.... buyers opinion

so Im surfing the web checking up on the market seeing whats available and how the market is, and I cant help but make an argument on the pricing on Mack Snows. IT IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS, and honestly anyone who purchases them right now is a fool. Sorry had to say it. I believe they first became public in the winter by Alex Hues, back then I could understand why they would sell them at $1000 a piece and people bought them..... First of all, they were pretty much over 80 grams, and ready to go(well worth the investment). People could buy them and breed them the instant they received them, and participate in the "race". Fast forward to today and they're trying to sell juveniles/sub-adults that are barely even sexable at a similar price($250 less is not that significant if your talking about $1000 geckos)???. lmao, Your dealing with a co-dom morph, you've seen what happened to the pricing of all new simple reccesive morphs, heck, I'm even bitter on the pricing of the blazing blizzards I produced, but co-dom, now thats a whole another story. The half-life on the pricing should be twice as quick. Yes, I know, Im expecting the "shut up's" followed by the "This post is just a bitter complaint", but hey.... it's a Opinion, and Im typing out loud.

I agree with this post because if I'm going to buy a leopard gecko worth 1k, it better be sexable, or there is no way I'll do it, I mean what happens if I get 2 males instead of a male/female? I'm out of the game for the season on breeding the new morph.

I feel your pain, but I honestly think its the old supply and demand game. Give it a few months and I think you will see a drop.

Those being sold as sexed hatchlings\juvies are temperature sexed and I'm certain for that price the sellers guarantee sexing, if not thats a sure fire way to catch some flack.

Personally if we release any I do not plan on listing specimens unless they are visually sexed. When dealing with high end specimens I do not like to second guess something such as sexing. If and when we release juvenile\hatchling specimens, we would guarantee sexing 100%

As for pricing...

Remember, this is a project that has gone public long before most would have. It is still in its infancy, Therefore the price reflects this. Don't like it, wait like everyone else. Prices drop. Yes, your post is a "just a bitter complaint" coming from someone obviously interested who cannot afford one at this time. There is nothing wrong with that..... There are MANY people waiting for pricing to drop on this line, and unfortunately you have to wait like everyone else. It does not happen overnight, and it certainly won't with this line.


Good luck....

Its interesting how people whine, moan and complain when a project they decided to get involved with takes a dump and the market falls out on them causing them to loose money and not be able to recoup fast enough.

Its plain ridiculous when those same people who said the market was going to fall out on that specific morph now complain because the bottom hasnt fallen yet

One thing I know for sure...people involved with the Mack Snows aint complaining

so Im surfing the web checking up on the market seeing whats available and how the market is, and I cant help but make an argument on the pricing on Mack Snows. IT IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS

Insert crafty opinions are like xxxxxxxx joke here. I'll skip straight to the laughing part thank you very much. hehehehehhe. Wow, you don't like the pricing on these guys, shoot I guess i better run to return mine!

and honestly anyone who purchases them right now is a fool.

Please! What do you care, aren't you getting out of geckos? Is this your parting shot?

People could buy them and breed them the instant they received them, and participate in the "race".

I assume you are meaning a race for a super? hmm, how many people have supers for sale right now?

Fast forward to today and they're trying to sell juveniles/sub-adults that are barely even sexable at a similar price

I agree with you on this point. They shouldn't be sold until sexable.

Yes, I know, Im expecting the "shut up's" followed by the "This post is just a bitter complaint", but hey.... it's a Opinion, and Im typing out loud.

The reason you are expecting the "bitter complaint" comments is well..... because you know exactly what this post is and how it reads. That is called transpersonal proclamation. Knowing and stating the result in order to lessen the blow.

For me working with the mack snows is all about discovering what will come out of this project. Nothing more, nothing less. The price will drop and yes I paid a good chunk of change for mine, but I am also getting to have fun with the project and that is worth the money spent. IMO

Frederick, you couldn't have said it better. Isn't raising and breeding reptiles suppose to be something thats fun? A hobby that you may/or may not make some cash off of. Also wasn't Blizzards priced around 1000-1200 when they first came out? Another point isn't the Urban geckos orangest nicest geckos going for 700-1200? I don't think it's all about making money for some people, but just having fun with something new. Supply and Demand.

Originally Posted by Gekkonida

That is called transpersonal proclamation. Knowing and stating the result in order to lessen the blow.

I like it when I learn something new!

LOL

I could not have said that better myself. PERFECT.

"cant afford one"?, please don't make assumptions on people you don't know. I am no longer interested in leopard geckos and probably won't be interested in buying ANY morph for a couple of decades. Alex says prices were being controlled in order to "protect people's investments", but bottom line..... competition screws over everybody. I'm just trying to provide information thatll make gecko buyers make better decisions and prevent those less knowledgeable consumers from wasting money on false investments. And another thing, $750 doesn't even get you a super..... it's just a het.....absurd