Sub sahara ball python

That is awesome! Good luck on your surprise clutch!!

Are all of these "sub saharan" females?

My small subsaharan dropped me 10 good eggs and 1 slug.

I'm just wondering because someone local to me claims he has a sub saharan male, yet I've never seen anyone with one or even talk about one.

They exist, but I am not sure if the size thing carries over with them.

I have two yellowbellies from a subsaharan female. One male, one female. The female is twice the size of the male, and honestly...the male eats more.

Yeah, she laid 10. 7 were good eggs, and 3 were slugs. 1 egg, a boob egg, died about 2 weeks into it. The remaining 6 look great!
I haven't gotten her to eat, yet, though. Trying ASFs soon. Hopefully she'll go for them. If not, I'll try gerbils, etc... I've tried mice. She looked, but didn't go for it. I kind of expected it, but thought she'd eat after laying, cause she'd be really hungry.

Originally Posted by ClarkT

Yeah, she laid 10. 7 were good eggs, and 3 were slugs. 1 egg, a boob egg, died about 2 weeks into it. The remaining 6 look great!
I haven't gotten her to eat, yet, though. Trying ASFs soon. Hopefully she'll go for them. If not, I'll try gerbils, etc... I've tried mice. She looked, but didn't go for it. I kind of expected it, but thought she'd eat after laying, cause she'd be really hungry.

Is she a wild caught? I've heard from Outback that Cypress mulch is a key in getting them to eat. Probably more natural to them.

Just out of curiosity ...

Has anyone considered that the larger heads on these WC "Sub Saharans" have more to do with frequency of feeding of BPs in captivity rather than their genetics?

I only ask because in boa constrictors, a boa fed too frequently will grow disproportionately in a manner that its head will be disproportionately small in comparison to the rest of his body. Because of the shape of BPs, this would be more difficult to notice, I believe. Still ... is it possible that the frequency people feed BPs to get them up to breeding size as quickly as possible contribute to their heads being smaller than these WC counterparts?

I'll admit, I have minimal knowledge on BPs in this regard, but reading the comments about these mature females pulled from the wild with larger than what is considered normal heads just had me wondering.

Originally Posted by ShadowAceD

Just out of curiosity ...

Has anyone considered that the larger heads on these WC "Sub Saharans" have more to do with frequency of feeding of BPs in captivity rather than their genetics?

I only ask because in boa constrictors, a boa fed too frequently will grow disproportionately in a manner that its head will be disproportionately small in comparison to the rest of his body. Because of the shape of BPs, this would be more difficult to notice, I believe. Still ... is it possible that the frequency people feed BPs to get them up to breeding size as quickly as possible contribute to their heads being smaller than these WC counterparts?

I'll admit, I have minimal knowledge on BPs in this regard, but reading the comments about these mature females pulled from the wild with larger than what is considered normal heads just had me wondering.

I think you just hit the nail on the head with that one...

Originally Posted by ShadowAceD

Just out of curiosity ...

Has anyone considered that the larger heads on these WC "Sub Saharans" have more to do with frequency of feeding of BPs in captivity rather than their genetics?

I only ask because in boa constrictors, a boa fed too frequently will grow disproportionately in a manner that its head will be disproportionately small in comparison to the rest of his body. Because of the shape of BPs, this would be more difficult to notice, I believe. Still ... is it possible that the frequency people feed BPs to get them up to breeding size as quickly as possible contribute to their heads being smaller than these WC counterparts?

I'll admit, I have minimal knowledge on BPs in this regard, but reading the comments about these mature females pulled from the wild with larger than what is considered normal heads just had me wondering.

Interesting theory, I have heard that but that hasn't been the case with my fastest growing females.
I have an 08 that is 3000 grams and has a nice large head, same with my 09 that is well over 2000 grams.

Admittedly my group isn't enough to say no, but I highly doubt that theory from my own experiences raising females to large adults.