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Old 11-20-2004, 10:29 PM   #1
SPJ
NY reptile ban has been signed into law!

Anyone know what kind of impact this is going to have on the sale of animals in NY?
Will this kill the White Plains show?

I know burms, retics, condas, and monitors are now banned but does anyone know if there are there any other animals that will end up being banned due to wording in this terrible law?

Breeding is now banned as well.
 
Old 11-21-2004, 12:12 AM   #2
Clay Davenport
Is it breeding in general, or just the breeding of the banned species?
I must have overlooked that part when I read the bill.
 
Old 11-21-2004, 12:47 AM   #3
The BoidSmith
Is this the one?

Quote:
S T A T E O F N E W Y O R K
__________________________________________________ ______________________

2684--F

2003-2004 Regular Sessions

I N A S S E M B L Y

January 29, 2003
___________

Introduced by M. of A. TONKO, TOKASZ, M. COHEN, GRANNIS, ENGLEBRIGHT,
CLARK -- Multi-Sponsored by -- M. of A. GALEF, A. GUNTHER, LOPEZ,
McENENY, PERRY, SIDIKMAN, WEISENBERG -- read once and referred to the
Committee on Environmental Conservation -- reported and referred to
the Committee on Codes -- committee discharged, bill amended, ordered
reprinted as amended and recommitted to said committee -- reported and
referred to the Committee on Ways and Means -- committee discharged,
bill amended, ordered reprinted as amended and recommitted to said
committee -- recommitted to the Committee on Environmental Conserva-
tion in accordance with Assembly Rule 3, sec. 2 -- reported and
referred to the Committee on Codes -- committee discharged, bill
amended, ordered reprinted as amended and recommitted to said commit-
tee -- again reported from said committee with amendments, ordered
reprinted as amended and recommitted to said committee -- again
reported from said committee with amendments, ordered reprinted as
amended and recommitted to said committee -- again reported from said
committee with amendments, ordered reprinted as amended and recommit-
ted to said committee

AN ACT to amend the environmental conservation law, in relation to
prohibiting the possession of wild animals as pets in New York state

THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, REPRESENTED IN SENATE AND ASSEM-
BLY, DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

1 Section 1. Legislative findings. The legislature finds that keeping
2 exotic animals as pets poses a serious threat to the health and safety
3 of New York state residents. Wild animals, including but not limited to,
4 monkeys, tigers and venomous snakes, are readily available for purchase
5 throughout New York state.
6 Across the country, children have been mauled by tigers, asphyxiated
7 by snakes, and bitten by monkeys. Wild animals kept as pets can transmit
8 serious diseases to people, including Herpes B, Salmonella and Ebola
9 virus.

EXPLANATION--Matter in ITALICS (underscored) is new; matter in brackets
{ } is old law to be omitted.
LBD04272-20-4

A. 2684--F 2

1 Recapture of escaped wild animals is an expensive and perilous endeav-
2 or for municipalities. Other states already prohibit private ownership
3 of certain wild animals as pets, a position supported by the United
4 States Department of Agriculture (USDA), the Centers for Disease Control
5 (CDC) and the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA). New York
6 must take similar steps to ensure the protection of the public and the
7 humane treatment of wild animals.
8 S 2. Subdivision 6 of section 11-0103 of the environmental conserva-
9 tion law is amended by adding a new paragraph e to read as follows:
10 E. "WILD ANIMAL" SHALL NOT INCLUDE "COMPANION ANIMAL" AS DEFINED IN
11 SECTION THREE HUNDRED FIFTY OF THE AGRICULTURE AND MARKETS LAW. WILD
12 ANIMAL INCLUDES, AND IS LIMITED TO, ANY OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING ORDERS
13 AND FAMILIES:
14 (1) NONHUMAN PRIMATES AND PROSIMIANS,
15 (2) FELIDAE (WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DOMESTICATED AND FERAL CATS, WHICH
16 SHALL MEAN DOMESTICATED CATS THAT WERE FORMERLY OWNED AND THAT HAVE BEEN
17 ABANDONED AND THAT ARE NO LONGER SOCIALIZED, AS WELL AS OFFSPRING OF
18 SUCH CATS), AND HYBRIDS THEREOF,
19 (3) CANIDAE (WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DOMESTICATED DOGS),
20 (4) URSIDAE,
21 (5) ALL REPTILES THAT ARE VENOMOUS BY NATURE, PURSUANT TO DEPARTMENT
22 REGULATION, AND THE FOLLOWING SPECIES AND FAMILIES: BOIDAE FAMILY,
23 ASIATIC (WATER) MONITOR (V. SALVATOR), NILE MONITOR (V. NILOCITUS),
24 WHITE THROAT MONITOR (V. ALBIGULARUS), BLACK THROAT MONITOR (V. ALBIGU-
25 LARUS IONIDES) AND CROCODILE MONITOR (V. SALVADORI) AND ANY HYBRID THER-
26 EOF,
27 (6) CROCODILIA.
28 S 3. Section 11-0103 of the environmental conservation law is amended
29 by adding two new subdivisions 31 and 32 to read as follows:
30 31. "PET" MEANS AN ANIMAL KEPT FOR THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF COMPANION-
31 SHIP THAT IS NORMALLY MAINTAINED IN OR NEAR THE HOUSEHOLD OF THE OWNER
32 OR PERSON WHO CARES FOR SUCH DOMESTICATED ANIMAL.
33 32. "WILDLIFE SANCTUARY" MEANS AN ORGANIZATION AS DESCRIBED IN SECTION
34 170(B)(1)(A)(VI) OF THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE OF 1986, AND APPROVED BY
35 THE ASSOCIATION OF SANCTUARIES OR THE AMERICAN SANCTUARY ASSOCIATION,
36 AND THAT OPERATES A PLACE OF REFUGE WHERE ABUSED, NEGLECTED, UNWANTED,
37 IMPOUNDED, ABANDONED, ORPHANED, OR DISPLACED WILD ANIMALS ARE PROVIDED
38 CARE FOR THEIR LIFETIME OR REHABILITATED AND RELEASED BACK TO THEIR
39 NATURAL HABITAT, AND, WITH RESPECT TO ANY ANIMAL OWNED BY THE ORGANIZA-
40 TION, DOES NOT:
41 A. USE THE ANIMAL FOR ANY TYPE OF ENTERTAINMENT, RECREATIONAL OR
42 COMMERCIAL PURPOSE;
43 B. SELL, TRADE, LEND OR BARTER THE ANIMAL OR THE ANIMAL`S BODY PARTS;
44 OR
45 C. BREED THE ANIMAL.
46 S 4. Section 11-0511 of the environmental conservation law, as amended
47 by chapter 432 of the laws of 1997, is amended to read as follows:
48 S 11-0511. Possession and transportation of wildlife.
49 {No} SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 11-0512 OF THIS ARTICLE, NO
50 person shall, except under a license or permit first obtained from the
51 department containing the prominent warning notice specified in subdivi-
52 sion nine of section 11-0917 of this article, possess, transport or
53 cause to be transported, imported or exported any live wolf, wolfdog,
54 coyote, coydog, fox, skunk, venomous reptile or raccoon, endangered
55 species designated pursuant to section 11-0535 {hereof} OF THIS TITLE,
56 species named in section 11-0536 OF THIS TITLE or other species of

A. 2684--F 3

1 native or non-native live wildlife or fish where the department finds
2 that possession, transportation, importation or exportation of such
3 species of wildlife or fish would present a danger to the health or
4 welfare of the people of the state, an individual resident or indigenous
5 fish or wildlife population. Environmental conservation officers, forest
6 rangers and members of the state police may seize every such animal
7 possessed without such license or permit. No action for damages shall
8 lie for such seizure, and disposition of seized animals shall be at the
9 discretion of the department.
10 S 5. The environmental conservation law is amended by adding a new
11 section 11-0512 to read as follows:
12 S 11-0512. POSSESSION, SALE, BARTER, TRANSFER, EXCHANGE AND IMPORT OF
13 WILD ANIMALS AS PETS PROHIBITED.
14 1. NO PERSON SHALL KNOWINGLY POSSESS, HARBOR, SELL, BARTER, TRANSFER,
15 EXCHANGE OR IMPORT ANY WILD ANIMAL FOR USE AS A PET IN NEW YORK STATE,
16 EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN SUBDIVISION THREE OF THIS SECTION.
17 2. THIS SECTION SHALL NOT APPLY TO THE FOLLOWING PERSONS AND ENTITIES
18 WITH RESPECT TO WILD ANIMALS OWNED OR HARBORED BY THEM SOLELY FOR A
19 PURPOSE OTHER THAN FOR USE AS A PET:
20 A. ZOOLOGICAL FACILITIES LICENSED PURSUANT TO 7 USC. SEC. 2132 ET.
21 SEQ. AND ACCREDITED BY AAZPA (AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF ZOOLOGICAL PARKS
22 AND AQUARIUMS);
23 B. EXHIBITORS LICENSED PURSUANT TO THE ANIMAL WELFARE ACT, 7 USC.
24 SECTIONS 2132-2134 WHO HAVE DEMONSTRATED TO THE DEPARTMENT, IN ACCORD-
25 ANCE WITH REGULATIONS PROMULGATED BY THE COMMISSIONER, THAT THE SOLE
26 PURPOSE FOR WHICH THE WILD ANIMAL OR ANIMALS ARE USED IS FOR EXHIBITION
27 TO THE PUBLIC FOR PROFIT OR COMPENSATION;
28 C. RESEARCH FACILITIES AS DEFINED IN THE ANIMAL WELFARE ACT, 7 USC.
29 SECTION 2132 (E), 2 (E) WHICH ARE LICENSED BY THE UNITED STATES SECRE-
30 TARY OF AGRICULTURE AND APPROVED UNDER APPLICABLE STATE LAW;
31 D. LICENSED VETERINARIANS AND INCORPORATED HUMANE SOCIETIES, ANIMAL
32 SHELTERS, SOCIETIES FOR THE PREVENTION OF CRUELTY TO ANIMALS OR ANIMAL
33 WELFARE ORGANIZATIONS IN TEMPORARY POSSESSION OF WILD ANIMALS;
34 E. STATE UNIVERSITIES OR OTHER STATE AGENCIES WORKING WITH WILD
35 ANIMALS;
36 F. WILDLIFE REHABILITATORS LICENSED PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF
37 SUBDIVISION THREE OF SECTION 11-0515 OF THIS TITLE AND REGULATIONS
38 PROMULGATED THEREUNDER, WHO ARE TENDING TO SICK OR INJURED WILD ANIMALS;
39 G. A PERSON HAVING CUSTODY OF A WILD ANIMAL SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF
40 TRANSPORTING IT TO A LICENSED VETERINARIAN, WILDLIFE REHABILITATOR,
41 HUMANE SOCIETY OR OTHER ENTITY AUTHORIZED BY THIS SECTION TO HANDLE OR
42 TREAT WILD ANIMALS;
43 H. A WILDLIFE SANCTUARY AS DEFINED IN SUBDIVISION THIRTY-TWO OF
44 SECTION 11-0103 OF THIS ARTICLE;
45 I. A PERSON WITH A FALCONRY OR HAWK LICENSE PURSUANT TO SECTION
46 11-1003 OF THIS ARTICLE;
47 J. A PERSON WHO IS NOT A RESIDENT OF THIS STATE WHO IS IN THE STATE
48 ONLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF TRAVELLING BETWEEN LOCATIONS OUTSIDE THE STATE.
49 IN NO EVENT SHALL THIS TIME PERIOD EXCEED TEN DAYS;
50 K. REPTILE EXHIBITORS LICENSED PURSUANT TO SECTION 11-0516 OF THIS
51 TITLE.
52 3. ANY PERSON WHO POSSESSES OR HARBORS A WILD ANIMAL FOR USE AS A PET
53 AT THE TIME THAT THIS SECTION TAKES EFFECT MAY RETAIN POSSESSION OF SUCH
54 ANIMAL FOR THE REMAINDER OF ITS LIFE, PROVIDED THAT SUCH PERSON:
55 A. HAS NOT BEEN CONVICTED OF ANY OFFENSE RELATING TO CRUELTY TO
56 ANIMALS OR UNDER A JUDICIAL ORDER PROHIBITING POSSESSION OF ANIMALS;

A. 2684--F 4

1 B. APPLIES TO THE DEPARTMENT WITHIN SIXTY DAYS OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE
2 OF THIS SECTION, AND OBTAINS FROM THE DEPARTMENT, A PERMIT PURSUANT TO
3 SUBDIVISION FOUR OF THIS SECTION; AND
4 C. COMPLIES WITH ALL RULES AND REGULATIONS ESTABLISHED BY THE DEPART-
5 MENT AS REQUISITES FOR OWNERSHIP OF SUCH WILD ANIMAL.
6 4. THE DEPARTMENT SHALL BE REQUIRED TO ISSUE PERMITS AUTHORIZING
7 POSSESSION OF WILD ANIMALS ONLY TO THOSE PERSONS WHO COMPLY WITH THE
8 PROVISIONS OF SUBDIVISION THREE OF THIS SECTION AND WITH ANY REGULATIONS
9 PROMULGATED BY THE DEPARTMENT THEREUNDER. SUCH PERMITS SHALL BE VALID
10 IN ANY JURISDICTION WITHIN THE STATE WHERE POSSESSION OF A WILD ANIMAL
11 IS NOT PROHIBITED BY LOCAL LAW AND SHALL BE RENEWABLE BIENNIALLY ANNUAL-
12 LY SUBJECT TO CONTINUED COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION
13 AND WITH ANY REGULATIONS PROMULGATED THEREUNDER. THE DEPARTMENT SHALL
14 FORWARD COPIES OF SUCH PERMITS TO THE CLERK OF THE CITY, TOWN OR VILLAGE
15 IN WHICH EACH WILD ANIMAL IS HARBORED.
16 A. PERMIT APPLICATIONS SHALL INCLUDE, BUT SHALL NOT BE LIMITED TO, THE
17 FOLLOWING:
18 (1) THE NAME, ADDRESS AND TELEPHONE NUMBER OF THE PERSON WHO OWNS,
19 POSSESSES OR HARBORS THE WILD ANIMAL OR ANIMALS, INCLUDING AN ACKNOWL-
20 EDGMENT THAT THE PERSON WHO OWNS, POSSESSES OR HARBORS THE WILD ANIMAL
21 OR ANIMALS IS TWENTY-ONE YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER.
22 (2) THE ADDRESS OF THE LOCATION WHERE THE WILD ANIMAL OR ANIMALS WILL
23 BE KEPT, IF DIFFERENT FROM THE ABOVE.
24 (3) A DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF EACH WILD ANIMAL OWNED, POSSESSED OR
25 HARBORED, INCLUDING SPECIES, GENDER, AGE AND ANY IDENTIFYING CHARACTER-
26 ISTICS.
27 (4) THE NAME, ADDRESS AND TELEPHONE NUMBER OF THE VETERINARIAN, WHO
28 WILL TREAT THE WILD ANIMAL.
29 (5) AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT INDICATING THAT THE WILD ANIMAL OR ANIMALS WILL
30 NOT BE BRED.
31 (6) A DETAILED STATEMENT ESTABLISHING THAT THE LOCATION IN WHICH THE
32 WILD ANIMAL WILL BE KEPT COMPLIES WITH ALL STANDARDS OF CARE PROMULGATED
33 BY THE DEPARTMENT, BUT AT MINIMUM COMPLIES WITH THE STANDARDS FOR ANIMAL
34 CARE SET FORTH IN THE FEDERAL ANIMAL WELFARE ACT INCLUDING, BUT NOT
35 LIMITED TO HOUSING, TEMPERATURE, VENTILATION, DRAINAGE, SANITATION,
36 FOOD, WATER, EXERCISE AND VETERINARY CARE APPROPRIATE TO THE SPECIES AND
37 SUFFICIENT TO MAINTAIN THE WILD ANIMAL IN GOOD HEALTH.
38 (7) AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT THE WILD ANIMAL WILL NOT BE TIED, TETHERED,
39 OR CHAINED OUTDOORS, ALLOWED TO RUN AT LARGE AND THAT THE WILD ANIMAL
40 WILL NOT BE BROUGHT TO ANY PUBLIC PARK OR COMMERCIAL OR RETAIL ESTAB-
41 LISHMENT UNLESS IT IS BEING BROUGHT TO A VETERINARIAN OR VETERINARY
42 CLINIC.
43 (8) AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT POSSESSION, HARBORING OR OWNING SUCH WILD
44 ANIMAL DOES NOT VIOLATE ANY APPLICABLE FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL LAW.
45 B. THE DEPARTMENT SHALL SET ANNUAL PERMIT FEES FOR THE POSSESSION OF
46 WILD ANIMALS PURSUANT TO SUBDIVISION THREE OF THIS SECTION IN AN AMOUNT
47 DETERMINED TO BE REASONABLE BUT NOT MORE THAN EIGHTY DOLLARS PER YEAR
48 FOR EACH WILD ANIMAL. PERMIT FEES SHALL BE USED SOLELY FOR THE ENFORCE-
49 MENT OF THIS SECTION.
50 5. PRIOR TO DENIAL OR REVOCATION OF A PERMIT ISSUED PURSUANT TO SUBDI-
51 VISION FOUR OF THIS SECTION, THE DEPARTMENT SHALL HOLD A HEARING UPON
52 DUE NOTICE TO THE PERSON WHO OWNS, HARBORS OR POSSESSES THE WILD ANIMAL,
53 AT WHICH SUCH PERSON SHALL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. THE
54 PROVISIONS OF THE STATE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURE ACT SHALL APPLY AT
55 PROCEEDINGS HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS SUBDIVISION. THE DECISION TO
56 DENY OR REVOKE A PERMIT UNDER THIS SECTION SHALL BE APPEALABLE.

A. 2684--F 5

1 6. ANY PERSON IN POSSESSION OF A WILD ANIMAL AS A PET THAT HAS BEEN
2 GRANTED A PERMIT PURSUANT TO SUBDIVISION FOUR OF THIS SECTION SHALL NOT
3 BREED, SELL, TRADE, BARTER OR EXCHANGE SUCH WILD ANIMAL.
4 7. A PERSON POSSESSING, OWNING OR HARBORING A WILD ANIMAL WHO IS
5 DENIED A PERMIT PURSUANT TO SUBDIVISION FOUR OF THIS SECTION, OR WHOSE
6 PERMIT IS REVOKED, SHALL SURRENDER SUCH WILD ANIMAL TO THE DEPARTMENT OR
7 AN AUTHORIZED AGENT THEREOF OR A PEACE OFFICER OF THIS STATE OR A DULY
8 INCORPORATED SOCIETY FOR THE PREVENTION OF CRUELTY TO ANIMALS.
9 8. THE DEPARTMENT, ANY PEACE OFFICER OF THIS STATE OR A DULY INCORPO-
10 RATED SOCIETY FOR THE PREVENTION OF CRUELTY TO ANIMALS IS HEREBY AUTHOR-
11 IZED TO ENFORCE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION AND ISSUE NOTICES OF
12 VIOLATION TO PERSONS IN VIOLATION OF THIS SECTION, AND SHALL HAVE THE
13 AUTHORITY TO SEIZE ANY WILD ANIMAL HELD IN VIOLATION OF THIS SECTION.
14 WILD ANIMALS SEIZED OR SURRENDERED PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF THIS
15 SECTION SHALL BE TRANSFERRED TO A DULY INCORPORATED WILDLIFE SANCTUARY
16 AS DEFINED IN THIS SECTION, OR A ZOOLOGICAL FACILITY ACCREDITED BY THE
17 AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF ZOOLOGICAL PARKS AND AQUARIUMS, OR SHALL BE
18 HUMANELY EUTHANIZED. THE DEPARTMENT SHALL ALSO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO
19 SEEK INJUNCTIVE RELIEF IN ANY COURT OF APPROPRIATE JURISDICTION TO
20 PREVENT CONTINUED VIOLATIONS OF THIS SECTION.
21 9. NOTWITHSTANDING ANY OTHER PROVISION OF LAW, ANY PERSON WHO KNOWING-
22 LY BREEDS A WILD ANIMAL OR KNOWINGLY POSSESSES, OWNS, HARBORS, SELLS,
23 BARTERS, TRANSFERS, EXCHANGES, OR IMPORTS A WILD ANIMAL FOR USE AS A PET
24 IN VIOLATION OF THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THE
25 PENALTY OF NOT MORE THAN FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE AND
26 NOT MORE THAN ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A SECOND AND SUBSEQUENT OFFENSES.
27 EACH INSTANCE OF BREEDING, OWNING, HARBORING, SALE, BARTER, TRANSFER,
28 EXCHANGE, OR IMPORT OF A WILD ANIMAL IN VIOLATION OF THIS SECTION SHALL
29 CONSTITUTE A SEPARATE OFFENSE.
30 10. NOTHING CONTAINED IN THIS SECTION SHALL PREVENT ANY CITY, TOWN OR
31 COUNTY FROM ENACTING MORE RESTRICTIVE PROVISIONS GOVERNING THE
32 POSSESSION OF WILD ANIMALS FOR USE AS PETS.
33 S 6. The environmental conservation law is amended by adding a new
34 section 11-0516 to read as follows:
35 S 11-0516. LICENSES TO POSSESS REPTILES FOR EXHIBITION PURPOSES.
36 NOTWITHSTANDING ANY OTHER PROVISION OF LAW TO THE CONTRARY, THE
37 DEPARTMENT MAY ISSUE TO ANY PERSON A LICENSE REVOCABLE AT ITS PLEASURE
38 TO COLLECT OR POSSESS REPTILES THAT ARE PROHIBITED UNDER THIS CHAPTER,
39 FOR EXHIBITION PURPOSES. HOWEVER, A LICENSE TO POSSESS A VENOMOUS SNAKE
40 OR SNAKE OF THE BOIDAE FAMILY PURSUANT TO THIS SECTION SHALL NOT ALLOW A
41 LICENSEE TO EXHIBIT SUCH SNAKE IN A SCHOOL HOUSING ANY GRADES PREKINDER-
42 GARTEN THROUGH TWELVE. THE DEPARTMENT SHALL ADOPT REGULATIONS CONCERN-
43 ING THE QUALIFICATIONS AND DUTIES OF REPTILE EXHIBITORS AND THE PROCE-
44 DURES FOR LICENSE ISSUANCE AND REVOCATION, INCLUDING REQUIRING A
45 LICENSEE TO ATTEND A FOUR HOUR COURSE APPROVED BY THE DEPARTMENT IN ONE
46 OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AREAS OF SPECIALIZATION:
47 1. CROCODILIANS;
48 2. BOIDS;
49 3. LARGE MONITOR LIZARDS; OR
50 4. VENOMOUS SNAKES.
51 S 7. This act shall take effect January 1, 2005; provided however that
52 the department of environmental conservation shall promulgate any rules
53 and regulations necessary for the implementation of this act on or
54 before such effective date.
.SO DOC A 2684F *END* BTXT 2003
 
Old 11-21-2004, 02:17 AM   #4
SPJ
That's the one.
 
Old 11-21-2004, 04:51 AM   #5
Clay Davenport
That's the original version. It was reworded so as not to state "Boidae family", but instead to list 5 species specifically.
As for my question on the breeding issue, based on this clause:
Quote:
WILD ANIMAL INCLUDES, AND IS LIMITED TO , ANY OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING ORDERS AND FAMILIES
It only restricts the breeding of species banned by this bill. In defining Wild Animal, the bill includes and limits the definition to only the animals listed. So when it states the following toward the end of the bill:
Quote:
NOTWITHSTANDING ANY OTHER PROVISION OF LAW, ANY PERSON WHO KNOWINGLY BREEDS A WILD ANIMAL OR KNOWINGLY POSSESSES, OWNS, HARBORS, SELLS,
23 BARTERS, TRANSFERS, EXCHANGES, OR IMPORTS A WILD ANIMAL FOR USE AS A PET
24 IN VIOLATION OF THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THE
25 PENALTY OF NOT MORE THAN FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE AND
26 NOT MORE THAN ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A SECOND AND SUBSEQUENT OFFENSES.
It specifies wild "animal" and must use the term as defined in the bill.

At any rate, breeding ball pythons, cornsnakes, and anything else not listed as prohibited will still be allowed.
 
Old 11-21-2004, 09:44 AM   #6
The BoidSmith
Yes, but what about Health Code 161.01? Does that apply only to NYC or has it been extended to the whole state?



quote:
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Originally featured on October 6, 2003

After hearing about the tiger and alligator discovered living in an apartment in Harlem, we thought you might like to have the full rundown of animals prohibited as pets in New York City by the Department of Health (Health Code 161.01: Wild animals prohibited).

(10) Reptiles. All Helodermatidae (gila monster and Mexican beaded lizard); all front-fanged venomous snakes, even it devenomized, including, but not limited to, all Viperidae (viper, pit viper), all Elapidae (cobra, mamba, krait, coral snake), all Atractaspididae (African burrowing asp), all Hydrophiidae (sea snake), all Laticaudidae (sea krait); all venomous, mid-or rear-fanged, Duvernoy-glanded members of the family Colubridae, even if devenomized; any member, or hybrid offspring of the family Boidae, including, but not limited to, the common or green anaconda and yellow anaconda; any member of the family Pythonidae, including but not limited to the African rock python, Indian or Burmese python, Amethystine or scrub python; any member of the family Varanidae, including the white throated monitor, Bosc's or African savannah monitor, Komodo monitor or dragon, Nile monitor, crocodile monitor, water monitor, Bornean earless monitor; any member of the family Iguanidae, including the green or common iguana; any member of the family Teiidae, including, but not limited to the golden, common, or black and white tegu; all members of the family Chelydridae, including snapping turtle and alligator snapping turtle; and all members of the order Crocodylia, including, but not limited to alligator, caiman and crocodile.
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Old 11-21-2004, 03:58 PM   #7
SPJ
Does that mean that hogs and garter are banned?
Hogs are rear fanged and garters have Duvernoy glands.

Also ALL members of pythonidae and boidae are banned? I thought everything was now classified under boidae. They must have not wanted any loopholes for people to be able to keep rubber boas, rosy boas, ball pythons, or childrens pythons.
What a crock.
 
Old 11-21-2004, 04:18 PM   #8
1216dex
Contract Ebola from reptiles? What the heck is that line about? I'll take my chances, I guess i've never been to New York, but it sounds like a scary place with retics sneaking around and strangling children every night. I love it when politicians write bills and try to sound scientific. I'm pretty sure i'm more likely to get ebola from rats and cockroaches.
 
Old 11-23-2004, 09:07 AM   #9
Mustangrde1
Here is a Question for anyone living in NY.

Apparently your constitution allows for repeal of laws! Why not get the herp societies togeather and obtain an attourney to have this law repealed?

Apparently the people who wrote this law sited the CDC about Salmonella. when in fact the CDC themselves can not say with 100% accuracy reptiles are the reason for salmonella when other factors of everyday life are taken in to account. As for constrictors I would love to see all these children that are killed yearly or statistical data on it. and the Ebola<sp> was related to prairey dogs if memory serves me correctly. So you have a law probably written by animal rights groups with a clear goal in mind.

What I see here is a law that is written based on fear and half truths and propaganda. You can either fight for your rights or just let them go with this bill!
 
Old 11-23-2004, 09:13 AM   #10
Bruce Lowder
Just wanted to clarify some concerns expressed:

The White Plains show will be continuing- next show is Jan. 15 & 16, back in the larger upper level. Vendor tables are already sold out despite the new law!

The law only restricts the following snake species: Anacondas, Burms, Retics, African Rock, Amethystine, and Burmese/Indian Pythons. For Lizards, it includes, Croc, water, nile, black-throat and white-thoat monitors. Crocodilians and venomous animals are also included, but they are already banned under other laws.

NY City has its own laws that are in some cases more restrictive. The two laws are not tied together.

My understanding is that permits will be available for animals already in possession. Cost and requirements are still be refined by the NY State Dept. of Encironmental Conservation. No breeding or sale of these animals will be allowed.

Hopes this helps clarify.

Bruce Lowder
 

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