The Pied project...Myth?

Originally Posted by TexasVipRoom

Ill post pictures this afternoon but this is the first year I have produced pieds and it was a high white visual pied to 100% het pied pairing. I hatched out 3 pieds and interestingly enough two are very high white and one is 50/50. It may be a fluke it may not. I am not sure but thought I would add my findings to maybe help support ur theory.

Do you know the parentage of your het? Was the pied parent of the het high or low white? This is where I think it gets blurry. Nobody tracks how much white is in a hets parent, just what the het percentage is.

Yes the female was 100% het pied and the male was a visual high white pied. I cant speak for the parents of the het. That makes a good point. I may hold one of mine back and check it out bc i know the history of these hets. good point

Very interesting, thanks! Like you, I suspected that amount of color could be bred in. Good insight.

I know someone has selectively bred the piebald asf's (a co-dominant gene) to be almost completely white. I suspect there are other genes that help the pied gene to dominate.

Do the high white producing het pieds tend to have really good markers? How about the het pied babies from clutches with high white pieds vs. the hets from clutches with low white pieds?

This is very interesting. i have a medium white pied male and a low white pied female. I will have to keep close records of what I produce when i breed them. I also just picked up a pastel het pied female so I will have to ask what the pastel pied father was.

I had a male low white Pied, I mean, about as low white as you could get, and he never once produced anything low white, his offspring were at least 50% white up to about 95% white. I got my Het females from different people, so cannot comment on the amount of white in my Het female's parent Pied.

Dave

Originally Posted by CornNut

I know someone has selectively bred the piebald asf's (a co-dominant gene) to be almost completely white. I suspect there are other genes that help the pied gene to dominate.

Do the high white producing het pieds tend to have really good markers? How about the het pied babies from clutches with high white pieds vs. the hets from clutches with low white pieds?

I've never paid any attention to the markers on them. I've had lots of normal balls that had awesome het pied markers. I've bred some of them to pieds and never got lucky. I've also had some het pieds that don't have any markers so I never put too much stock into the markers.