citruslover
California Citrus Dragons
Chris Carpenter is a Bad Guy who purchase a citrus het hypo female with a small tail nip from me 8/19/09. He received the dragon and
stated
jeff i got her around 1 she is the best color yellow her shed was done at 3 awsome thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff and Cyndy"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:45:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: Money request sent
Then I hadn't heard a word until Oct 29, when he asked for pics and bloodlines of the parents which I happily send and received the reply:
"she s growing and looking great ill send some pics thanks again"
On November 15, I received this request:
"Hi guys can you send me pics of the female i got from you and here bloodline i have a buyer and i dont have a camera its chris thanks"
After stating the pics were on my website and he needed to take his own picture for sale of the dragon, he said the dragon
wasn't eating, didn't look healthy, and that I had a dragon picture on my site that was the one he really purchased and I was a fraud.
The statement of fraud by Chris is what really set me off:
i do a lot of research before i spend a couple hundred dollars maybe there were a few other breeders i was talking too does that make sense ? or are you still mad because your dragon is not a true citrus dragon ha youre a true fraud.fake disrespectful you dont deserve too own these animals never mind selling them lol youre company is a Joke
From: "Jeff and Cyndy"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:46:27 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: Chris c
Needless to say I was mad. Having kept all the emails too and from Chis, I calmly stated the facts multiple times.
Eventually I sent him the original email with the pics of the dragon he purchased, along with the tail nip (it was posted on fauna).
His last response was
just to add I was never informed there was a tail nip so fuck you
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff and Cyndy"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 6:07:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: Chris c
I was perfectly happy to let this jerk go his own way and never respond to him again, until he posted the female I sold him with incorrect genetics.
He stated she was 100% het trans. I questioned it on the classified ads, and wagged a finger at me in a pm, saying I should know what her bloodlines were and
I had refused to give him that information. He asked that I call him, I did. The conversation did not go politely.
After a few threatening messages, like "you don't know who you're f***ing with", "dont mess with him on the forums", etc...
I have not called him back, but I have refused to let him post incorrect genetic information on his classified ads, since he clearly doesn't know what
he's talking about.
There are several more emails I can post to further state my case, but I encourage all to call this guy if they consider buying from him and
think about who your about to buy from. He is just trying to sell dragons someone else produced, stating whatever he needs to to sell them.
Jeff Crider
stated
jeff i got her around 1 she is the best color yellow her shed was done at 3 awsome thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff and Cyndy"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:45:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: Money request sent
Then I hadn't heard a word until Oct 29, when he asked for pics and bloodlines of the parents which I happily send and received the reply:
"she s growing and looking great ill send some pics thanks again"
On November 15, I received this request:
"Hi guys can you send me pics of the female i got from you and here bloodline i have a buyer and i dont have a camera its chris thanks"
After stating the pics were on my website and he needed to take his own picture for sale of the dragon, he said the dragon
wasn't eating, didn't look healthy, and that I had a dragon picture on my site that was the one he really purchased and I was a fraud.
The statement of fraud by Chris is what really set me off:
i do a lot of research before i spend a couple hundred dollars maybe there were a few other breeders i was talking too does that make sense ? or are you still mad because your dragon is not a true citrus dragon ha youre a true fraud.fake disrespectful you dont deserve too own these animals never mind selling them lol youre company is a Joke
From: "Jeff and Cyndy"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:46:27 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: Chris c
Needless to say I was mad. Having kept all the emails too and from Chis, I calmly stated the facts multiple times.
Eventually I sent him the original email with the pics of the dragon he purchased, along with the tail nip (it was posted on fauna).
His last response was
just to add I was never informed there was a tail nip so fuck you
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff and Cyndy"
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 6:07:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: Chris c
I was perfectly happy to let this jerk go his own way and never respond to him again, until he posted the female I sold him with incorrect genetics.
He stated she was 100% het trans. I questioned it on the classified ads, and wagged a finger at me in a pm, saying I should know what her bloodlines were and
I had refused to give him that information. He asked that I call him, I did. The conversation did not go politely.
After a few threatening messages, like "you don't know who you're f***ing with", "dont mess with him on the forums", etc...
I have not called him back, but I have refused to let him post incorrect genetic information on his classified ads, since he clearly doesn't know what
he's talking about.
There are several more emails I can post to further state my case, but I encourage all to call this guy if they consider buying from him and
think about who your about to buy from. He is just trying to sell dragons someone else produced, stating whatever he needs to to sell them.
Jeff Crider
