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Hello,
I'm looking for 1 or 2 aggressive colubrids, rat snake or coach whip preferably. Must be over 3 feet and the meaner the better. I'm going to be using it for education and venemos snake training.
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Hi. With all do respect. There is No non venomous snake that can prepare you for venomous training. There are much better ways to go about your education. If you want you can contact me and I'll try and give you some better suggestions . That would take to long to type here. Cheers Greg
 
Cuz there is no preparation for handling hots. You can get venom defender gloves but all in all just when you think it's tame and used to you. You're gonna get bit. I know from experience. But don't be torturing colubrids . If they are aggressive then they are stressed out and that's not good for that animal
 
I hear you have to give them a kiss on the cheek and they will be your friends...i mean look at those guys in India, they have been doing it forever and they are totes fine.



(all sarcasm FYI) If you are going to handle hots you are going to handle hots, be smart and use the right tools to keep them away from you. Also spitfire is right and posting to a forum could be a terrible idea....seeing how F&W are on these things all the time. But if you are gung ho into getting into hots I hear the best starter snake is Bitis nasicornis
 
Yup. We all can be dare devils but yeah . You really have to respect them. I've been bitten and it hurts like hell plus 2 weeks in the hospital. Thank god for insurance cause that bill would have been about 30 grand. But I vote on pygmy rattlesnakes for a first time hot. They have small fangs and pretty easy to work with. Use tongs , hooks and gloves. The venom defender gloves are expensive but you can't put a price on your life
 
Since God is your glove maybe you can open your own church. Then you don't have to worry about laws. Just say it's religious beliefs. They may even give school kids a holiday off from school if someone gets killed while free handling.
 
I can "second" what others have already said. There is no preparation for keeping venomous except keeping venomous. An "aggressive" Colubrid is a scared, stressed-out snake, and you never get out of your mind that it's non-venomous, so you still take chances that you BETTER not take with a "hot" snake! The vast majority of "aggressive" Colubrids will actually become tame, very quickly, and I can say this because I specialize in keeping and breeding two genera-Nerodia and Masticophis-that most people assume are "aggressive". Besides, isn't it illegal to keep "hots" where you live?

pitbulllady
 
Yeah. That's a very dumb idea. I have cribos and rattlesnakes. You can't learn to handle an aggressive cribo and then go try type luck with a cobra or rattlesnakes. You won't live long if you think you can
 
Oh, believe me, this isn't the first request I've seen for this. I have had people want to buy Water Snakes and Coachwhips from me for this very purpose, because someone told them that it was good practice for keeping venomous snakes. I have no hesitation whatsoever about putting my hands into a big tub of adult Nerodia and pulling out snakes. I have Water Snakes that sit in my lap while I'm watching the NASCAR races on tv-now tell me HOW that will prepare anyone for dealing with a WDB or a Monocle?
 
Really dumb idea!

As far as the training part goes, this person is a statistic just waiting to happen. It is only a matter of time till they get bit by something.

The scariest part is that they are going to use this stressed out, aggressive animal to show just how awesome our hobby is. It is people like this that screw it up for all of us in the hobby. I have been keeping reptiles for 40 years and have done 100s of shows in that time but I have never used an animal that wasn't calm and tame. Using an animal that is stressed out and scared will only make people more afraid of snakes and not less. This is NOT educating the public. I can see them from here. They are getting the shovel out of the barn to behead that gopher or black rat snake.

Admin, please consider pulling this add. Thanks!
 
^^^ So everybody that has discredited this guys add thinks he should start out with venmous reptiles because training with nonvenomous will never get someone prepared to deal with a venomous snake... That makes about as much sense as Raymond Hooser.
 
Handling non-venomous snakes WILL NOT prepare you to deal with a venomous snake! That IS the point, and I don't even know why anyone would question that. For anyone to claim that keeping an "aggressive"(meaning: scared, stressed-out and defensive)Colubrid will prepare you to deal with a highly-venomous viper or Elapid is analogous to claiming that peddling around the driveway on a Big Wheel is preparation enough for driving a Formula One race car. It's not even close to being in the same league! It's pretty much a moot issue, anyway, since the OP lives in a state where private ownership of venomous snakes of any kind is banned, so unless he moves to a state where it's allowed, he can't keep "hot" snakes. I've kept venomous snakes, and I've had my share of defensive Colubrids and Boids, and there is no way that a bitey Racer, or Rat Snake, or even a Boa is going to get you ready to deal with a snake that has the ability to change your life with one bite, if not kill you. Your mental state when dealing with "hot" snakes must never be anything like what it is when you're dealing with a non-venomous snake, even one that bites at every given opportunity, because even with the biters, you get complacent and even joke about the snake biting, an attitude that will cost you dearly if you get into that mindset around a "hot" snake.
 
pitbulllady said:
Handling non-venomous snakes WILL NOT prepare you to deal with a venomous snake! That IS the point, and I don't even know why anyone would question that.
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Black Racers are a lot like mambas. Someone who is practicing handling a Racer with a hook, tongs and gloves and never grabs the snake with his hands could certainly attain skills in handling snakes that would benefit him in handling mambas and cobras. It is indeed strange that so many in this thread cannot understand that.

Even more disturbing is the "black eye on the hobby" fascists who sound like RATS ready to send a note to cops to bust them.

Rats get fed to snakes.

It's pretty much a moot issue, anyway, since the OP lives in a state where private ownership of venomous snakes of any kind is banned, so unless he moves to a state where it's allowed, he can't keep "hot" snakes.
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I would wager a substantial sum of money that there are people keeping cobras, mambas and rattlesnakes in Hawaii.
 
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