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Dan scalaro (Ben Siegal employee) bad guy

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I dont normally like to post bad guy posts,but this guy Dan Scalaro,just wont stop with these bogus emails.. and threats. We did a deal months ago,a Trade he claimed that the snake i sent him was doa,I asked sevral times for a pic or the return of the corpse,excuse after excuse I got from him. So I just paid for the snakes I got from him outright that he said he just got from the back of the store. Now months l8tr I get these emails from him saying I owe him a 1.1 of 04 eastern hogz. Yea right I paid for the snakes In full. I just wanted to post a couple of his emails on here to show is true colors..


Yep, my buddies at kingsnake.com will monitor your ass until you back shoplifting. (there is one)

Kingsnake.com and UPS will be laughing at you also. Show your friends your dic* for a good laugh. (here is # 2)................................ I hate to post bad guy posts but this guy just wont let up.I think he gives Ben&Stacy Siegal a bad name as being one of there employees acting like this..... So Dan cry all you want I know what was said and what was not said. I paid for the snakes in full.. You say you have been around 40 yrs act like it pal.... Grow up... Mike Clark..

"karmas got a way of coming back and returning"
"LEGALIZE FREEDOM"
 
I wont drag this out

WELL I ALREADY STARTED A THREAD ON THE BOI ...SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO JOIN IN...... I PAID YOU FOR THE SNAKES BOTTOM LINE..... BY ALL MEANS PLEASE LETS HEAR A TAPE RECORDING....... LOL...... I'D LOVE TO MEET YA IN PERSON...... [email protected] YOU....AND..GOD BLESS..... PS. I DID SHIP UPS.... I WILL NOT DISPUTE THAT FACT..... WILL NOT DISPUTE THE FACT THAT YOU BEGGED AS WELL AS STACY TO HAVE IT SENT THAT WAY TO THE STORE..... LESSON LEARNED...... I PAID FOR THE SNAKES AND YOU STILL NEVER EVEN SHOWED ME A PIC OR SENT THE CORPSE LIKE YOU LIED AND SAID YOU DID... IM THRU... POST ALL YOU WANT... AGAIN [email protected] AND UR FAMILY... MIKE..... ................... my last response to his bs email that Just got again...lol claiming he has me on tape.... LoL... I wont post his last deragotory email.... I paid for the snakes in full with out ever even seeing a pic of the so called doa or got it in the mail like he lied and said he sent.... Dan my dues are paid.. Say what you will, threaten me with your friends at kingsnake.com do as you will im thru....Mike Clark.
"Karmas got a way of coming back and returning"
"LEGALIZE FREEDOM"
 
lmao....

Yea, Ben is waiting your call. I would not piss on you if you were on fire so as you could figure, I am shaking in my boots to meet you. (Dan Scalaro)

Man this guy leads some life...
Mike Clark....


"karmas got a way of coming back and returning"
"LEGALIZE FREEDOM"
 
well

if it was me i would first contact ben and ask what the heck is this about?it shows integrity on your part to pay for snakes you got from him even though no proof of doa was provided in this trade deal,now months later he is saying ya still owe him?wtf?ive delt w/ben in the past and all went flawless, and frankly cant beleive he would allow one of his employees to talk with one of his costumers or anyone for that matter in that kind of threatning tone?especially since ya paid for the snakes?as stated id contact ben,then if neccesary find and post proof that ya paid for the snakes ya got from him,,anyway best of luck
:confused: :smokin: :no_evil01
thomas davis
 
I frequent Ben at least once a week.

I have never heard of this person, and I know all the employees. What makes you so sure that Dan is an employee of Ben and even if he was, maybe this was a private sale, and has nothing to do with Ben or Stacy
 
not sure

Dan is an ex-employee--he worked and showed up-never really had a problem with him--however he is also an avid collector and does alot of deals for himself with alot of dealers, as he is mainly into hots and we do not do any hots-i do not know who this person is or what the transaction he had with dan was, but it was nothing having to do with my wife or myself, so i think it is incredibly poor taste to even mention us in the heading of this post. Probably a ploy to get me upset with Dan. If you have a problem with me or my service feel free to call me or post it, but if your problem is with dan scalaro who does not even work for us, and has not since the begining of august, take it up with him and leave us out of it. I will say, that Dan does alot of business with quite a few people, and in my experience has always been an honest guy as far as i can tell. I think that if he says he received something doa, it would be true.
Ben Siegel
 
True...

Ben, Maybe I should of left your name out of the heading,reason being that I put it was every other word out this morons mouth was Ben this Ben that when I go back and Talk to Ben this... etc.. & me mentioning ur wife is because I spoke with her on the phone I asked her if in fact it was a doa and all she would tell me is it was not her deal.. I still will not swallow that it was a doa but in fact if it was,even w/o me seeing a picture or getting the corpse back I still paid for the snakes in full. My purpose of this thread was not just to try to piss someone off. Just to let ppl see how this guy is. You have all my aploigies if you feel disrespected in anyway that was not my intentions... Mike Clark
 
I would highly suggest a moderator remove bens name from the title of this forum thread.
 
I second that Ben's name should be removed from the title of this thread as it was in very bad taste seeming it had nothing to do with Ben but will pop up if someone does a search on Ben.
 
mistake admited

I agree 100% I should not have put Ben's name in that heading. If I could remove it I would. Ben again Im sorry. & by the way Chirs Johnson funny you say that now in your 2nd post after you see Ben was upset that his name was used..... Again I totally agree & see now that was a mistake,Im only human. & I admit that was the wrong thing to do now,@ the time though in the numorus threatening emails I got from this guy all he could talk about was how he is Mr. big shot @ Ben's shop and implying that Ben was behind him all the way on this.... I'll close with one last apoligy to Ben&Stacy for putting their name in the heading.... AS for you Dan, well I wont even stoop to ur level.... Pe@ce & Chicken grease..... Mike Clark.....
 
my first post was...


"this guy works for Ben?

hmmm.......... :("

As in disbeleif....

I didnt think Ben would associate with that type of person, but then again it is hard to judge a situation without hearing the other side. Simply knowing that he is no longer an employe of Ben's I suggested a moderator remove Bens name from the topic protecting his good reputation.

Mind telling me what was so "funny" about me saying that?
 
hmmmm

Chirs, your right about what you said... I may have taken what you said when you said it the wrong way...I want no enemys or fueds you as well have my apoligy if I offended you.... Again if I could remove or change the heading myself I would..... I dont want to drag this out and flood the forum with this... Pe@ce to you Chris..... Mike Clark.
 
No offence taken, just was wondering what i may have said that seemed wrong... :)

Take care,
 
Ben and Stacy Siegel had nothing to do with any transaction with this thief. In his posts, Serpentboy has cut and pasted wording after excluded his provoking statements.

Months ago, I contacted Serpentboy from my residence about an Arizona coral snake he advertised on kingsnake.com. We discussed trading scarlet king snakes that I could find, however his preference was to receive an albino speckled king and a pair of gray-bands. We agreed to take care of shipping expenses on our own accord, and I mailed my snakes to him. The next day I received at my residence, a stinking, long-gone dead and emaciated and diseased ridden snake with a stub-tail. Serpentboy was contacted seconds later and he refused to speak to a well-known and verifiable witness that I could gather. After he was pressured, Serpentboy conceded that he sent the coral snake in its dead rotting condition. Since I was victim to this con-artists scam and deceit, I was anxious to receive anything in return for my snakes, so I agreed to not take administrative action against him if he would send money for the snakes. Serpentboy also begged and pleaded that he would reimburse me for my troubles with a pair of baby hognose snakes if I would not report him to kingsnake.com and other authorities. In retrospect, I should have taken the advice of many people and reported him to all authorities, however I was concerned that he would do exactly what he did, and that was to try to defame and blemish and/or implicate the wrong people and continue his dishonesty and amnesia. To hide the evidence of his crime, Serpentboy held the money for a few days until I mailed the dead snake back. I cut off the dead snakes head so that he could not use it again in his thievery and so that it would not have any residual venom, and sent it to the address he provided. A day later, he emailed and asked me if it was sent. When I replied with a “yes”, he said he gave me the wrong address and it would not be accepted at the address he provided. The snake was returned two weeks later. Serpentboy was informed and he discontinued any interest in receiving the rotting snake.

Most recently I became a bit aggravated to read that this kid has ripped-off another consumer and I was feeling guilty that I did not take care of him in the first place. I contacted him to see if he developed any integrity, and his behavior was that of a child with amnesia.

This individual should not be permitted any computer access to place any posts or comments as his behavior and actions are criminal in nature and he is a very unstable and irrational adolescent. His energy is derived from gaining satisfaction with stealing other people’s assets and damaging his competition. He should be removed from this forum before he is permitted to defame again.
 
Dan,

What I would suggest is that you post the e-mails in their entirety on here so everyone can see them and you can prove what you inferring about what he has posted. Maybe them will they validate your statements. But at this point both sides seem to me to be a " He said....He Said" argument.
 
The next day I received at my residence, a stinking, long-gone dead and emaciated and diseased ridden snake with a stub-tail.

Are you saying that a coral snake was delivered to your house!?

You expected to recieve a hot snake by overnight carrier?

Both of you are way out of line if this is how the transaction took place.

You for accepting a hot snake to be delivered to your house and serpentboy for shipping it that way.
 
Steve,

Good catch there. I was tired and must have missed that part myself. I am sure that the USF&W that do monitor this site will love seeing that addmision.
 
Finally...

Dan. Im glad you finally grew the sac to come on here and post some of your lies.... Say what you will,We both know what happenend and how. You can change the story up as much as you'd like.... and use how long you have been around or who you know as a exuse as to that every word you muster is TRUE.. Which only you and I know the truth. I begged and pleaded yea..yea... Is that the best you can do.? & again I will admit I sent him to his house a LIVE az very well packed..and yes it was shipped by ground... I have admited that mistake and have learned from doing so. Dan why dont you tell about all the other HOTS you tried to get me to send you or the Hots you wanted to send me by ground... You leave so much out... Bottom line I paid for the snakes in full, you never showed me a pic that you kept saying you'd take.... you say you mailed .it never arrived... So I took your word and sent $$ for the GB's and speck. You talk about me only putting part of your emails on here there is a lil truth to that.... The other stuff is sick & just out right derogatory,so I felt it right to leave that out.... There were Talk of hoggies back then.. That was when I was collecting them in the early spring you said you'd like a nice pair if I come across any EXTRAS nothing to do with our deal at hand... You also tried and tried to get me to send you more corals by ground TX's ones.. That in return you'd send me some lil ground rattlers you guys have there in Fl. Blah blah.. I could go on and on... I'll leave this b now.. It's dead in the water to me. you were paid. An 1 last time for all the readers out there Yes I made the Mistake of sending him a coral via ground mail.. Which he told me he does all the time "Oh it's just a lil coral it wont hurt nothing" do ya remember mustering those words Dan.? My mistake & I admit it fully... I could sit here and count off #'s of ppl on this forum that ship hots via ground,but that's not my finger to point... Im no thief.never have ripped ne 1 off.. Say what ya will Danny boy... This is nothing more than A $$$ making hobby for me and not you or ne 1 for that matter can or will change that... Pe@ce 2 all..Mike Clark
 
I normally stay out of this stuff.


But perhaps it would help your case Mike, if you did not write things like "Im glad you finally grew the sac to come on here and post some of your lies"

Just my .02
 
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