Spectrum Reptiles
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This post is to inquire on the legality of the naultinus geckos owned by Jay Sommers. Please include legal documents, dates, seller, etc.
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Inquiry Jay Sommers- legal naultinus geckos??
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Spectrum Reptiles
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Lol. Google does not show proof of the legitimacy of his animals. I'm not looking for current legal status of them. I'm seeking proof of the legality of HIS naultinus geckos.
Jay Sommers Reptiles
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I have been keeping naultinus for a very long time. I have never sold one...ever. And I likely never will. I wouldn't sell Barry a naultinus if he paid me a million dollars and I was short a million dollars to give myself a life saving operation. This is the real Barry lambert exposing himself for who he really is. All of this stems from him throwing a temper tantrum because on December 17th I told someone I stay away from him, when they dropped his name to get credibility for me to sell something to them. Barry apparently couldn't handle the rejection or the blow to his ego?? I have no idea but I got a barrage of crazy messages from him.
The reason I stay away is because he is hot!!! Usfw is all over him and I don't need the trouble. He mysteriously had his recent indictment dropped? So he says . I don't know I don't care. But I will say he started offering a whole lot of esa listed species in the time since that indictment. If he was a drug dealer it would look a lot like he worked out a deal. Im not saying he did or didn't. Just saying looks fishy. Anyway this is Barry fixated on my geckos which are none of his business. He's just deflecting that's all
Spectrum Reptiles
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I have been keeping naultinus for a very long time. I have never sold one...ever. And I likely never will. I wouldn't sell Barry a naultinus if he paid me a million dollars and I was short a million dollars to give myself a life saving operation. This is the real Barry lambert exposing himself for who he really is. All of this stems from him throwing a temper tantrum because on December 17th I told someone I stay away from him, when they dropped his name to get credibility for me to sell something to them. Barry apparently couldn't handle the rejection or the blow to his ego?? I have no idea but I got a barrage of crazy messages from him.
The reason I stay away is because he is hot!!! Usfw is all over him and I don't need the trouble. He mysteriously had his recent indictment dropped? So he says . I don't know I don't care. But I will say he started offering a whole lot of esa listed species in the time since that indictment. If he was a drug dealer it would look a lot like he worked out a deal. Im not saying he did or didn't. Just saying looks fishy. Anyway this is Barry fixated on my geckos which are none of his business. He's just deflecting that's all
Jay, you have said numerous times your geckos are legal. Please prove it!! Usfw has stated to numerous people not to even think about importing them. Stop crying about being "picked on" and back it up by proof. Isn't that what you say? Don't worry, I wouldn't want them. You couldn't provide legal documentation anyway. You talk a good game but never backed by legal docs. I've worked with numerous legal ESA species. So what? Your attempt to slander and bash won't work. Stop deflecting and show some proof!
Spectrum Reptiles
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Furthermore, anyone who's asked you to provide proof has been publically blasted and bashed just for asking. Sure sounds questionable to me. Again, please provide proof of your "legal" naultinus. I would hate to see another innocent victim fall prey to your business ethics.
Jay Sommers Reptiles
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Actually I haven't slandered anyone. But telling people my naultinus are illegal is.
Jay Sommers Reptiles
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You are seriously out of your mind. Fall prey to my business ethics?
Spectrum Reptiles
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Your posts are slander in disguise. People aren't stupid. Nope. Never once said illegal. What I asked for is proof showing they are legal? And if you can't then the answer is clear. Especially when you handle people aggressively who inquire on their legality.
Spectrum Reptiles
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Nope. We already seen how you handle your customers. More proof will be shown within in the next 72hrs. Stay tuned. One must have a clean nose if they are going to question others.
Fangthane
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A very similar situation came up in the "MattK" thread, where you said you had all required documentation. Seems like it would be pretty easy for someone with such fastidious record keeping to put this thread to rest - assuming your documentation for New Zealand imports is as up to snuff as those from Mexico.
By withholding proof, you're just lending credence to the idea that Barry Lambert may not be the only involved party with ties to smuggling. It just doesn't make sense to let this drag on, if you really do have the means to kill it with one shot.
Jay Sommers Reptiles
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Im actually letting Barry give himself a longer rope. Barry actually did this same thing on a facebook forum and I actually did post my docs.
Im actually not sure why I need to prove the validity of my animals???? And im sure in Matt k's thread I mentioned the focus was that he was not Matt that was a made up name. He was a mexican national selling animals in the US. My concern there wasn't about his animals it was about people potentially getting ripped off by sending money to someone that isn't who they say they are. And I also have not questioned the legality of any of Barry's animals. So again I actually do have the docs. I keep a massive collection of species.
Im going to let Barry continue over and over again say my animals aren't legal. Because it's entertaining.
Im actually not sure why I need to prove the validity of my animals???? And im sure in Matt k's thread I mentioned the focus was that he was not Matt that was a made up name. He was a mexican national selling animals in the US. My concern there wasn't about his animals it was about people potentially getting ripped off by sending money to someone that isn't who they say they are. And I also have not questioned the legality of any of Barry's animals. So again I actually do have the docs. I keep a massive collection of species.
Im going to let Barry continue over and over again say my animals aren't legal. Because it's entertaining.
Jay Sommers Reptiles
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Still haven't seen a boi about my customers. And I am waiting for any of them to contact me with what they are upset about so we can resolve it if im at fault.
Fangthane
Tuck Frump!
This is the kind of comment I'd have expected from Mike Matson, not someone with integrity who has the truth on their side. Maybe I'm just odd in that I don't like seeing people playing games with a serious situation; maybe I'm the only one.
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Jay Sommers Reptiles
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This is the kind of comment I'd have expected from Mike Matson, not someone with integrity who has the truth on their side. Maybe I'm just odd in that I don't like seeing people playing games with a serious situation; maybe I'm the only one.
Except I have been grasses for months. And Mike matson and Barry are teaming up.
How is this a serious situation?? Im Curious? I couls see the relevance of this thread if I was offering naultinus for sale. But im not. And frankly my animals are no ones business but my own unless I am offering them for sale. I am being accused of something with no proof. Over and over again. So how about we prove the illegality of my naultinus with some factual proof??? Asking to see the documents for setting so high profile as my naultiness is like asking me for pics of my girlfriend naked. But I guess you don't see that point of view?? This is frankly one of the most sought after and high profile species in the world. I am the only person in the US with legal documented animals. Trying to figure out how it's anyones business but my own. Especially Barry.
Jay Sommers Reptiles
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Concerns are being addressed. What are you concerned about?
Spectrum Reptiles
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Well, you want to expose people and thinks it's cute so be prepared to back yourself. And your right they are highly sought after by some so all the more reason to show yours are legal. Doesn't matter if your selling them. The animals I bought overseas and paid my dues over weren't for sale either. Didn't make them legal. What have you got to lose besides your so called good name Jay? Lol
Spectrum Reptiles
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Also, you said start a new thread on this and you'll address it. I would have thought you'd already have the 3177 and other docs scanned and uploaded by now.