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Karl Wilson is a known flipper in Ohio. He has contacted me several times trying to get my hypo jungles for less than half the cost, trying to tell me other breeders are cheaper etc and I would always tell him go to them then. I told him he will never get any of my animals, at least not from me. Then he would call me a bad person and all that and try to beat me down so I would sell.

Earlier he used stolen photos from Martyn Pinto in the UK to try to say they were his, I knew they weren't his but I posted the screen shots of the email and Martyn came forward and said they are his, produced last year and posted different photos of the same snakes.

Karl Wilson we believe also goes by the name James Bayles. He flips animals with almost no quarantine. And will trade broken products as well for animals.

I feel if he's willing to use another breeders animals to try to beat you down on price he may also try scamming with those same photos or others as well.

He will tell you your animals aren't that great then come at you another time with "wow theyre priced so great I'm shocked you have to keep reposting them". All in an attempt to try to get your animals for a lower price, make you feel as if your pricing is too high, just so he can pay a fraction them flip it for a profit later. I'll go through emails, I'll have to edit some as I did swear a bit because im tired of him bothering me and get the screen shots posted. I wasn't going to post anything until he used stolen photos trying to beat me down and I feel with the type of person he is he wouldn't think twice using those to scam people out of money.
 
The site is giving me problems, trying to get the most recent sent posted where he sent the stolen photos.

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I still can't get the site to work even after restarting my phone. I'll try again later or tomorrow to get everything posted.

For anyone curious, on the site you have to upload them hit "close window" it will not load when I hit close window. Nothing happens and you can't attach from Tapatalk anymore

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Pasodama said:
Oh, I see. That is odd.

Do you know where this Karl Wilson is located in Ohio?

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Mentor Ohio, his James bayles Facebook says Cleveland but its mentor, I did a trade with him at the end of 2014 before I knew and ended up with a cage that had a cut cord for the heat tape, I figured it could be opened and pulled out (he also at that time admitted to not using thermostats on those cages) and the inside is a bit warped from it. I still use it but have to heat through the thickest part of the cage. He lied and told me it was a boaphile and it's not. I tried contacting boaphile to find out how to get the heat tape out and ended up with the owner getting an attitude and acting like he couldn't wait to get me off the phone. So I said forget it and just have to set the Thermostat at 110 to get that spot to 93. I never really complained about that other than when we tried to get the heat tape out the cage actually started to crack inside when we didn't even touch there so I figured it was melted together since he said he never used thermostats.
 
Here we go, this is the first string from him, I guess I didn't wlswesr at him just called him an idiot a couple times lol
 

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When he sent these he still knew they were my snakes, he was trying to pressure me into selling low. Which I have told him I'll keep them all before I sell to him. I learned my lesson the first time. There have been other accusations but I won't post those without the word from the shows, if I can contact them I'll post it.
 

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This is where the stolen photos come in. In this string or the next ones I'll post he sent me a photo of a snake trying to say he wanted one of my females to breed with him and thats the one I said was grossly over fed because it's head looks FAR too small for its body I'll post that too.
 

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That first photo is the one he sent in an attempt to make me think he wanted to breed but I know he's just going to flip her
 

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Martyn with another photo of one of the snakes used, and the 2 profiles people have made connections to
 

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I think I'm missing a couple emails from the last string with the stolen photos, I'm going to get those screen shotted and posted in a minute
 
He was told about this thread last night as you can see in the emails. Martyn was not happy at all and trying to find the connection between them which was a Facebook group i believe. Also notice in the last email he sent at 6am this morning trying to back peddle what he said obviously knowing these threads are permanent and trying to not look so bad.
 

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ElexisOrtiz said:
Karl Wilson is a known flipper in Ohio. He has contacted me several times trying to get my hypo jungles for less than half the cost, trying to tell me other breeders are cheaper etc and I would always tell him go to them then. I told him he will never get any of my animals, at least not from me. Then he would call me a bad person and all that and try to beat me down so I would sell.

Earlier he used stolen photos from Martyn Pinto in the UK to try to say they were his, I knew they weren't his but I posted the screen shots of the email and Martyn came forward and said they are his, produced last year and posted different photos of the same snakes.

Karl Wilson we believe also goes by the name James Bayles. He flips animals with almost no quarantine. And will trade broken products as well for animals.

I feel if he's willing to use another breeders animals to try to beat you down on price he may also try scamming with those same photos or others as well.

He will tell you your animals aren't that great then come at you another time with "wow theyre priced so great I'm shocked you have to keep reposting them". All in an attempt to try to get your animals for a lower price, make you feel as if your pricing is too high, just so he can pay a fraction them flip it for a profit later. I'll go through emails, I'll have to edit some as I did swear a bit because im tired of him bothering me and get the screen shots posted. I wasn't going to post anything until he used stolen photos trying to beat me down and I feel with the type of person he is he wouldn't think twice using those to scam people out of money.
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I don't see a scam here. Did he say the snakes in the photos were his? If so, please post that. I also missed where he used the "stolen photos" to try to "beat you down". Business people try to get things cheap. That's how people make money. If you were so tired of him "bothering" you, why did you keep engaging him? Quite frankly, the correspondence you posted shows he was civil and you were ignorant and condescending. In any case, is there a victim of a scam in your saga?
 
I knew I was going to see a comment from you. Anthony Fitzpatrick is supposed to post evidence of Karl trying to sell him a single gene albino as an albino lemon blast. So yea he is a scammer

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