I placed an order from Allapattah Flats on July 1, 2005 and have yet to receive either the product I paid for or a refund. I have tried numerous times to get them to either send the animals or to refund my credit card, but they just keep giving me the run-around.
Below is the email reply I received after placing the order:
Ten days passed without any contact from them, so I sent the following email:
This is the response I got:
I then waiting approximately six weeks, with still no word from them, so I sent another email inquiring about my order. Note that I stated a refund would be acceptable if they would not be shipping the animals:
They replied that day asking for my order number, despite the fact that it was listed lower in the email:
That was the only correspondence I've had with "Nina".
Anyway, I replied with this email:
...and got this response from Felton:
Almost two weeks passed and I did not hear back from them, so I sent them this email:
I did not receive a response to that email. No animals were shipped, and my credit card had not been refunded.
I then talked to Felton twice on the phone about the order. The information obtained during, and pertaining to, those calls is in the email below. I have been trying to reach them, but I have heard nothing from them since the phone call when Felton told me that they would be sending the animals. I sent them this email yesterday:
I have tried three times to call them today. The first time I left a message mentioning the email I sent to them and that I wanted either the animals or a refund (again).
Normally I am a rather patient individual. However, they have lied to me about shipping the turtles, have not followed through with their promises, and are now refusing to reply to my emails and phone calls.
I will be contacting my credit card company either tonight or tomorrow to see if I can contest the charge that was made back in July.
I will be sending them an email notifying them of this thread, and will post any pertinent updates as I receive them.
Below is the email reply I received after placing the order:
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Your Allapattah Flats Turtle Farm Order
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:22:16 -0400
Thank you for your recent order with Allapattah Flats, all orders are processed within 5-7 business days of the original order date.
Our sales department will be in contact with you via-e-mail or telephone to confirm your order. All reptiles purchased from Allapattah Flats are covered by a 60-day guarantee. Amphibians are only guaranteed upon arrival, they are not covered under our 60 day warranty.
In addition to this guarantee, it is our policy that if an animal has to be sent back to Allapattah Flats for any reason, it will be the customer’s responsibility for the fees of the return shipping, plus a 20% re-stocking fee.
When reviewing your Credit Card Statement your Allapattah Flats order charge will appear as Totally Reptile.
If you should have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at 1-888-877-0506, during the hours of 8a.m.–10p.m, 7 days a week.
Thank you for shopping with Allapattah Flats.
Order Number : 1040
Placed : 07/01/2005 21:22:16 EDT
Ship To: Bill To:
Paul Sage Paul Sage
[email protected] [email protected]
608-288-0027 608-288-0027
Paul Sage Reptiles Paul Sage Reptiles
4610 Onaway Pass 4610 Onaway Pass
Madison WI 53711 Madison WI 53711
US US
Code Name Quantity Price/Ea. Total
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CS6I Reeves Turtles (babies) 35.00 x 4 = $140.00 2 $140.00 $280.00
Shipping: Turtles Only (200.00 Min Order): $0.00
Sales Tax: $0.00
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Total: $280.00
Ten days passed without any contact from them, so I sent the following email:
From: Paul Sage
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:16 PM
Subject: RE: Your Allapattah Flats Turtle Farm Order
Hi, I was just wondering if you could inform me of the status of my order that I placed 10 days ago. Thanks, I appreciate it.
Paul
This is the response I got:
From: "Allapattah Flats" <[email protected]>
To: "Paul Sage" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Your Allapattah Flats Turtle Farm Order
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:14:19 -0400
Thanks for the email,
The Reeves Turtles which, you have ordered have not hatched yet. For some reason everything is late this year. I will be going our to the farm today and getting a better update from Mr. Weinburg.
Thanks,
Felton
I then waiting approximately six weeks, with still no word from them, so I sent another email inquiring about my order. Note that I stated a refund would be acceptable if they would not be shipping the animals:
From: Paul Sage
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: Your Allapattah Flats Turtle Farm Order
Hello again. I was hoping you could provide me with an update to this order that I placed over a month and a half ago. My credit card was charged as soon as I placed the order. If the turtles will not be available by September 1, I would appreciate a refund to my card. Please let me know the status of the order.
Thank you
Paul Sage
(608) 288-0027
They replied that day asking for my order number, despite the fact that it was listed lower in the email:
From: "Allapattah Flats" <[email protected]>
To: "Paul Sage" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Your Allapattah Flats Turtle Farm Order
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 07:03:33 -0400
Mr. Sage,
Can you please give me your order number and I'll be happy to give you a status of your order.
Nina
That was the only correspondence I've had with "Nina".
Anyway, I replied with this email:
From: Paul Sage
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Your Allapattah Flats Turtle Farm Order
I am still waiting for a response regarding the status of my order. Any information you need should be at the bottom of this page. Thank you.
Paul
(608)288-0027
...and got this response from Felton:
From: "Allapattah Flats" <[email protected]>
To: "Paul Sage" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Your Allapattah Flats Turtle Farm Order
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 07:13:12 -0400
Paul, the owner of the farm which by Reeves Turtles has been in and out of the hospital. I will try him once again tomorrow and if we can not set and arrangement time I will credit your account. Very sorry for this confusion with your order.
Thanks,
Felton
Almost two weeks passed and I did not hear back from them, so I sent them this email:
From: "Paul Sage" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Your Allapattah Flats Turtle Farm Order
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 03:26:33 -0500
I understand that certain conditions may arise that delay the processing of an order, but I feel that I have given you ample time already to do so. Please refund my credit card for the $280 that I was charged on July 1st. I expect that this will be taken care of no later than September 15th. Thank you.
Paul Sage
I did not receive a response to that email. No animals were shipped, and my credit card had not been refunded.
I then talked to Felton twice on the phone about the order. The information obtained during, and pertaining to, those calls is in the email below. I have been trying to reach them, but I have heard nothing from them since the phone call when Felton told me that they would be sending the animals. I sent them this email yesterday:
From : Paul Sage <[email protected]>
Sent : Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:47 PM
To : [email protected]
I spoke with Felton on 10/07/05 about this order. He told me that he needed to check with the owner of the Reeve's and that he would get back to me on 10/08/05. He didn't.
So, I called him on 10/18/05 and Felton told me that they had the Reeve's and would be shipping them out for Friday delivery. I did not get a shipping confirmation so I called on Friday to find out whether or not they were indeed shipped. No one answered and I left a message, asking someone to call me back. No one did.
I tried calling today (10/26/05) at 4:00 CST, and no one answered.
This is your FINAL notice to either ship the Reeves to me tomorrow (10/27/05) for delivery on Friday 10/28/05 or to refund my credit card in the amount of $280.00 no later than 4:00pm CST on Thursday, 10/27/05. I am DONE getting the run around from you guys. This is absolutely ridiculous. If either of the above ultimatums are not met by the specified time, I will file a complaint with my credit card company to recover the damages, and consult my attorney if needed.
Felton, you mentioned that you've seen me post on Fauna Classifieds. I don't think you want the first thread on there about you to come from me.
Sincerely,
Paul Sage
4610 Onaway Pass
Madison, WI 53711
(608) 288-0027
Order No. 1040
I have tried three times to call them today. The first time I left a message mentioning the email I sent to them and that I wanted either the animals or a refund (again).
Normally I am a rather patient individual. However, they have lied to me about shipping the turtles, have not followed through with their promises, and are now refusing to reply to my emails and phone calls.
I will be contacting my credit card company either tonight or tomorrow to see if I can contest the charge that was made back in July.
I will be sending them an email notifying them of this thread, and will post any pertinent updates as I receive them.
