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I recently sent $3500 in the amount of 4 postal money orders (3 for $1000 each, 1 for $500 -- because $1000 is the limit for one money order) to a breeder with a good name. He said when he took them to the post office to authenticate them (he says he does this to all of his postal money orders before depositing them into his bank account) they took the money orders and mailed them to a place that is supposedly supposed to confirm that they are genuine postal money orders...

um, well... they are genuine... but it's been a week and he still hasen't heard anything back from the post office.... :>poke2<:

Has anyone heard of anything like this? I once deposited a large amount of postal money orders in my bank account, but the teller called some number to verify it was authentic first. I can't see why they couldn't have done this? I mean it's a POST OFFICE... shouldn't they be ABLE to just... call a number to see if it's genuine or not?!

I'm trying not to be impatient, but I am getting a little anxious to see my new babies. And... sigh. I know he's not a scam because it's a top name breeder... so I know he's probably telling the truth...

but I can't help but think... that maybe the post office person is trying to steal the money order??? I've never heard of ANYthing like this before.
I would have just paid with my debit card... but I had to cancel it a week before because their were unauthorized charges to it.

Anyway, my question is... is this how Post offices usually authenticate money orders? It is a very small town that it was sent to... if that makes any bit of difference?
 
Charisma,

I have received payments with postal money orders before. I just go to my bank (First Bank and Trust) endorse them right in front of them, and they give me the cash right then and there. Bank money orders are a different story, some banks will wait for a few days until they clear; postal money orders? Never heard of such a thing.

Regards.
 
I've never heard of such a thing either.

And eh, not to worry you, but have you read the thread about TSE? Just because it's a "big name breeder", it doesn't always mean they are 100% trustworthy. Have you tried calling the post office in his town to ask them? That would be the first thing I would do....speak with the postmaster there.
 
Have you tried calling the post office in his town to ask them? That would be the first thing I would do....speak with the postmaster there.
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Brilliant, I never even thought of that!
I will do that Monday first thing!
 
Let us know what you hear, I'm really curious as to what they say. It just does seem really odd.
 
Security features of U.S. Postal Money Orders

PMOs are generally regarded as one of the more difficult financial documents to counterfeit
Watermarks. Telltale watermark when held up to the light should reveal images of Benjamin Franklin, repeated on the left side (top to bottom)
Dark security strip running alongside the watermark (top to bottom), just to the right. If held to the light, a microfiber strip will show tiny letters "USPS" along its length, facing backward and forward.
Rainbow of inked patterns and tones.
PMOs are printed on crisp, clean, textured paper stock.
Maximum value of $1000 for domestic (US) postal money orders, and $700 for International Postal Money Orders.
Denominations appear in two locations. If the denomination amounts are discolored, that indicates that they have been erased.
Ultra-Violet features include the above mentioned micro-fiber strip that glows red, and the PMO number on the reverse side and the bottom which will also appear red under UV light.
Postal Money Orders are NEVER sequentially numbered, which is common with counterfeit
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Counter employees are supposed to check the money order against a "hot list" of stolen money orders which they have at the post office before cashing a USPS money order.

The "hot list" is also available online at: http://www.usps.com/stascmo/docs/uspo.txt

Also, the local post office should absolutely be able to validate that a particular money order is genuine. Despite numerous counterfeit schemes involving bogus USPS money orders not a single counterfeit has ever duplicated the security features unique to USPS money orders.

The only reason I can think that they would take the money orders is a seizure of an instrument that they felt was counterfeit at which point they would have forwarded them to the Postal Inspectors for follow-up.

I would not have surrendered the money orders without at least speaking to the post master of that branch and receiving a receipt.
 
Anyway, my question is... is this how Post offices usually authenticate money orders? It is a very small town that it was sent to... if that makes any bit of difference?
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Charisma,

So you know we do live in a town with 20,000 people 10,000 of which are university students who leave in the summer. Now that I would consider small! Still we cash money orders right on the spot, even those for $1,000.

Regards.
 
The only reason I can think that they would take the money orders is a seizure of an instrument that they felt was counterfeit at which point they would have forwarded them to the Postal Inspectors for follow-up.
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They told the breeder that they looked real, but they wanted to send them to the postal inspectors to make sure. They didn't tell him a day when it would be back. We were guessing a few days... but it's been a lot longer then that.

My question was is if the postal workers could just call a number/verify if the money orders were authentic, or if they had to send them to the inspectors first... and how long would it take?

I wouldn't really be worrying about it... except I misplaced the stubs, so they ONLY way I would get a refund of my $3500 is if the post office employees contat the breeder back stating they are authentic so I can get my ball pythons.... or if the breeder got the money orders back and sent them back to me... or something. Sigh. I really need to start keeping records, I really didn't think this would happen.

I will call them Monday. I hope they have some information to give me.

Thank you everyone for your input and for caring... it helps out a lot. :)
 
From what I understand they can just call and with the number they will know exactly if it's real and where was it sold.

Regards.
 
I get in postal money orders and I take them straight to the PO where they scan then and cash them, I never have or would try to deposit them to my bank account and cause delays, the PO can do it right there. Now if it is a ton of money the PO may not have that cash on hand to cash them and tell the person to come back the next day with the other MO's to receive payment on the ones they are unable to fund at the time.
 
Charisma Star said:
They told the breeder that they looked real, but they wanted to send them to the postal inspectors to make sure. They didn't tell him a day when it would be back. We were guessing a few days... but it's been a lot longer then that.
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Its unlikely that they would have said anything else, even if they thought the money orders were the worst forgeries they had ever seen.

Did you buy all of the money orders on the same day? From the same post office?
 
no; because the lady told me I could only buy up to $3000 worth a day. So I only bought $2000 one day, waited one day, then came back the next day to buy $1500.

I just think this whole thing is stupid... they aren't fake, all they had to do was call a number, IMHO... god this pisses me off so much.

I'm calling them tomarrow like you suggested, I'll let you know.
Actually, I'll be at the post office tomarrow anyway to send Scott & Michael their money orders... do you think I should say anything to the people there? Would they be able to help me?
 
Its worth mentioning to the folks at your post office to see if they know what could have happened.

If they don't know (and you have time) ask to speak to the post master of that post office.

Depending upon what they tell you, you may want to contact the USPS Postal Inspectors.
 
Anne,

What finally became of this? Did you ever receive your animals?

Regards.
 
I have kind of put this on the back-burner. I've been very busy lately and could not contact them within the times they've been open. But I will contact them this week.
Will post an update when I have it.
 
WOW.......for $3500, I would MAKE the time to contact them. If no one has contacted you still, I'd be awfully concerned that your money is gone....??
 
Cat_72 said:
WOW.......for $3500, I would MAKE the time to contact them. If no one has contacted you still, I'd be awfully concerned that your money is gone....??
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Same here, and I'm getting to the point where I would like to know who's the breeder. The main reason is that my payment choice is invariably postal money orders. They make me feel safer (so far!). This breeder might be among the ones I might consider doing business with in the future so I would like to know who he is.

Regards,
 
coyote said:
Yeah, I'd be pacing the floor, muttering, fretting and having trouble getting to sleep.
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Not to mention saying lots of words that would get me in big trouble here. :ack2:
 
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