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IBD and Feeder animals

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Is it possible to introduce IBD into a collection through feeder animals? Does the freezing process kill the pathogens related to IBD? Anybody ever heard of picking it up from tainted feeder rodents?

Thanks
 
Metachrosis said:
Nope !



M/
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Nope, what?

Not possible (what about transfering mites from an infected snake to the feeders before killing)

Nope, it doesn't kill the pathogens?

Nope, never heard of it?

:shrug01:
 
Loungelizard said:
(what about transfering mites from an infected snake to the feeders before killing)
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That promotes 2 different policies:
1) eradicate mites, & treat all incoming specimens as a routine
2) don't transfer feeders from one snake to another (yes, I occasionally do it...depending on the animals)
 
hhmoore said:
That promotes 2 different policies:
1) eradicate mites, & treat all incoming specimens as a routine
2) don't transfer feeders from one snake to another (yes, I occasionally do it...depending on the animals)
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Not from my own snakes, from snakes at the rodent breeder's facility, before they (the feeders) are killed and frozen.

Maybe I'm thinking about this too hard.
 
I'm not certain, but I don't think most reptile diseases can be passed to mammals or vice versa. However, if a live mite that had injested blood from an IBD infected snake then somehow hitched a ride on a feeder rodent, and that mite somehow survived freezing and then bit YOUR snake, it might get infected. I read somewhere that "more than likely" IBD has to be passed via fluid or blood, which is why mites can pass it along through a whole collection. Of course no one knows everything about IBD, but I'd say the chances of it getting passed through frozen feeders would be very very slim. But if I thought or heard that a rodent producer had reptiles that had IBD, I wouldn't be buying any more feeders from them, either.
 
That is an interesting thought of feeders passing on IBD. It is also unknown if IBD can be airborne, it is theorized that it is, but no true evidence is available. You may be interested in reading this thread
Mile High Herps (Susan Newman) - IBD Infected Snake
Posts # 86, 92, 97, 102, and 105 of BW Smith's has some good info of the animals he has lost even though he was strict about his care.

I am not sure if IBD is killed through freezing, I am not sure if that has been studied yet, but I would not risk it if the feeders you want to buy are coming from a facility that has been fighting with IBD. Better safe then sorry, especially with a very deadly disease.
 
Yep !



j/k:rofl:
I think the local lottery has better odds then anyone being conclusive with a reptile to Mammal,Mammal to reptile passing of IBD.
Just buy feeders from reliable sources and enjoy your critters! :thumbsup:

M/



Loungelizard said:
Not from my own snakes, from snakes at the rodent breeder's facility, before they (the feeders) are killed and frozen.

Maybe I'm thinking about this too hard.
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