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hhmoore
tired & cranky shadow
quit chokin on her, Steve. Hold her nicely
SPJ
Well-known member
I tried that. Then came the bend over backwards to get my in the face part.
This way I only get the peeing on me.
The male on the other hand, can't even be hooked out. He just strikes wildly at anything near him.
This way I only get the peeing on me.
The male on the other hand, can't even be hooked out. He just strikes wildly at anything near him.
hhmoore
tired & cranky shadow
lol - how long have you had them? and what are you keeping them in?
SPJ
Well-known member
They are each in a wood 4 x 2 x 2 cage.
They are recent arrivals here.
Of course the male tried to take my face off when I went to pick them up so I guess this is just how they are.
They are recent arrivals here.
Of course the male tried to take my face off when I went to pick them up so I guess this is just how they are.
hhmoore
tired & cranky shadow
They must just dislike you, Steve...the ad clearly states that in 5 years, they never struck. They've held it in for so long, they just need to get it out of their system, lol. (can't blame it on your red shirt this time).
Good luck with them. (personally, I prefer top opening enclosures for large aggressive things...easier to get at them)
Good luck with them. (personally, I prefer top opening enclosures for large aggressive things...easier to get at them)
Casey Hulse
New member
Hey Steve, anytime I see an add for a "tame" snake, but the picture shows a hook with blood on it (human!) I avoid. Good luck! 
garweft
Inventor of the Internets
I like how they were supposed to be TAME, but there are no pics of anyone holding them. Not to mention the handling hook.
Maybe they meant T.A.M.E..... Truely and Absolutely Mean and Evil
Maybe they meant T.A.M.E..... Truely and Absolutely Mean and Evil
texasnewbie
non-custom.
Casey Hulse said:Hey Steve, anytime I see an add for a "tame" snake, but the picture shows a hook with blood on it (human!) I avoid. Good luck!
Yes, the bloody hand print may have been a clue.
Wilomn
New member
Perhaps living in fear of your killer parakeet or that snapper from hades has put them in a bad mood.
Or, maybe, the seller lied. No, no, what AM I thinking? We ALL know that no seller would EVER lie about the snakes they were trying to unload, er sell.
I wonder if that 20 egg thing was really a misspelling of 2 piles of uriates too.
Or, maybe, the seller lied. No, no, what AM I thinking? We ALL know that no seller would EVER lie about the snakes they were trying to unload, er sell.
I wonder if that 20 egg thing was really a misspelling of 2 piles of uriates too.
Clay Davenport
Cerebral Nomad
Don't worry about it Steve. Tame snakes are overrated.
The meaner ones are far more interesting.
The meaner ones are far more interesting.
SPJ
Well-known member
Yeah but these projectile piss (and other things). 
I've had to mop the floor twice so far and wash several shirts.
I swear if the male manages to crack the glass on his cage, my wife is going to KILL me. Bad enough she decided to mess with me this morning and tell me he got out. I flew down the hall, almost tripped down the stairs, to see he was NOT out and her and the kids laughing their butts off.
I picked these up as favor. I think this is the last favor I do.
I've had to mop the floor twice so far and wash several shirts.
I swear if the male manages to crack the glass on his cage, my wife is going to KILL me. Bad enough she decided to mess with me this morning and tell me he got out. I flew down the hall, almost tripped down the stairs, to see he was NOT out and her and the kids laughing their butts off.
I picked these up as favor. I think this is the last favor I do.
SPJ
Well-known member
Casey Hulse said:Hey Steve, anytime I see an add for a "tame" snake, but the picture shows a hook with blood on it (human!) I avoid. Good luck!
We'll that'll teach me to look a bit more carefully at the pics to see what I am really getting into.
Seamus Haley
Big Game Hunter
Have you kept bloods before Steve?
I only ask because they're one of those species where the nasty reputation is only partially deserved and the behavior they display generally has a lot more to do with external stimulus than a mean streak in the animal... it's all about instinctive responses to certain stimulus and what kind of triggers you set off when you approach them. Most bloods can be handled if they're not all worked up provided the person doing the handling knows how to read their body language and is comfortable approaching the snake. The best approach becomes intuitive as you learn the animal's responses- if someone had them from neonates they probably had that kind of automatic "right" approach and they might be honest when they say the animals never nailed 'em.
I only ask because they're one of those species where the nasty reputation is only partially deserved and the behavior they display generally has a lot more to do with external stimulus than a mean streak in the animal... it's all about instinctive responses to certain stimulus and what kind of triggers you set off when you approach them. Most bloods can be handled if they're not all worked up provided the person doing the handling knows how to read their body language and is comfortable approaching the snake. The best approach becomes intuitive as you learn the animal's responses- if someone had them from neonates they probably had that kind of automatic "right" approach and they might be honest when they say the animals never nailed 'em.
SPJ
Well-known member
It could be that I don't approach them correctly but just walking by the cage causes the male to lash out so I'm not sure how to approach him.
hhmoore
tired & cranky shadow
maybe you need to change your deodorant...or at least your shirt? :rolf:
It definitely sounds like something has him all upset about something - if you haven't done so, you might want to throw a box in there for him to use as a hide...before he messes up his face
It definitely sounds like something has him all upset about something - if you haven't done so, you might want to throw a box in there for him to use as a hide...before he messes up his face
boybronco
New member
Thats too bad Steve.
Did you start a thread in the BOI for false advertising?
Did you start a thread in the BOI for false advertising?
Cheryl Marchek AKA JM
New member
I hate to say it~ but it could just be you......
I know thats kind of mean~ but I've seen it recently in what I believe to be a pair of pretty docile monitors I have for sale. They put on a show~ but never try to BITE me~ unless they suspect I have food and I can recognise the "food" response and USUALLY I can convince them I don't have any food when I need to handle them~
So recently a potential customer came over to look at them. I took the female out~ saw her doing the "Is it lunch time?" lunge~ grabbed her from the back of the neck and tail base as I always do and hauled her out of the cage while explaining that once I have her OUT of the cage the feed response would stop......
well.....it usually does
Unless I've just explained to a potential customer that it will.......
In which case the monitor then lunges at my hands and the potential customers feet~ mouth open in obvious "THERE IS SOME LUNCH!" mode! I had to be VERY fast to keep the potential customer from losing toes. He didn't buy the monitors~ and actually told me it was because it was going to cost too much to feed them! LOL!
I've had that female for a year without ever having that kind of problem before~ but apparently this fellow just looked like lunch to her no matter what our usual routine is (the routine as in once I haul your butt out of the cage there is NO FOOD coming)
Maybe your blood Pythons have just decided you look like you need the adrenaline rush! LOL!
Good luck with them~ they look like lovely snakes!
Work with them some and see if you can find the "it's not time to kill me" cues!
I know thats kind of mean~ but I've seen it recently in what I believe to be a pair of pretty docile monitors I have for sale. They put on a show~ but never try to BITE me~ unless they suspect I have food and I can recognise the "food" response and USUALLY I can convince them I don't have any food when I need to handle them~
So recently a potential customer came over to look at them. I took the female out~ saw her doing the "Is it lunch time?" lunge~ grabbed her from the back of the neck and tail base as I always do and hauled her out of the cage while explaining that once I have her OUT of the cage the feed response would stop......
well.....it usually does
Unless I've just explained to a potential customer that it will.......
In which case the monitor then lunges at my hands and the potential customers feet~ mouth open in obvious "THERE IS SOME LUNCH!" mode! I had to be VERY fast to keep the potential customer from losing toes. He didn't buy the monitors~ and actually told me it was because it was going to cost too much to feed them! LOL!
I've had that female for a year without ever having that kind of problem before~ but apparently this fellow just looked like lunch to her no matter what our usual routine is (the routine as in once I haul your butt out of the cage there is NO FOOD coming)
Maybe your blood Pythons have just decided you look like you need the adrenaline rush! LOL!
Good luck with them~ they look like lovely snakes!
Work with them some and see if you can find the "it's not time to kill me" cues!
Seamus Haley
Big Game Hunter
Cheryl Marchek AKA JM said:
That's basically it... I mean, the photo of the girl wrapping tight with her head being held firm, I have yet to see the blood or short tail that *won't* get defensive if it's held like that. Kind of a chicken and egg thing as far as the photo is concerned, she's being held like that because she was defensive, she's defensive because she's being held like that.
It all comes down to instinctive triggers and the person learning the animal. I hopped in the fauna chat after esponding to this last time, asked the people there to describe how they would approach handling a few species that they didn't own or hadn't worked with and the diversity of answers was pretty steep. Coming in from above, anything near the head, any contact that encircles the body- you're a lot more likely to get a blood worked up than coming in from the side and keeping contact just underneath- back from the head, take as much of the midbody weight in your hands or on your forearms as you can.
Even with a description though, the person needs to have the experience with the species to be able to read them- it's not always a conscious act, just a subtle and intuitive adaptation of your approach to accomidate or avoid those behavioral triggers.
Seamus Haley
Big Game Hunter
Seamus Haley said:
Responding even.