Small business Grants, Loans, etc. in this industry?

So I'm getting quite used to the idea of dedicating my life to my animals. I know I am new to the hobby and am only breeding Leopard Geckos at this time, but I really find working with animals to be one of the most satisfying things in my life. I really am looking to expand my collection, with the intention of learning about and then ultimately breeding and selling, about 5-10 different species in the next few years. Of course, the problem becomes funding my goals. I'm 21 years old and in college, but studying something completely unrelated and ultimately will not find a high paying job with that degree.

My dream really would be to work out of the house, buy a diesel van and drive cross country to work at shows.


So I'm turning to all of you, as experienced members of the community from all walks of life. I need advice on how to realistically go about chasing my dream.

Thank you so much for your consideration,

What is your degree in? It may be something related to this new business venture that you dont even know about.

Otherwise....

While your still in college take some business courses ESPECIALLY business law. A selling course is also recommended.

Basicly you need to start running the business as a business. Get all your permits in order (tax id ect.)

Then have someone (yourself or an accountant) draw up a Flow of Funds Statement, a Balance Sheet, an Income Statement etc.

Take this with you when you go to the bank to apply for a loan. Most banks do have small business loans, but you need to be able to show that you can pay back that loan.

You'll want a firm business plan for the next five years, with plans to review and rewrite that plan in five years.

These are just the first steps you'll want to take, there are many twists and truns and pot holes and hills with starting your own business. Plan to be in the red for the first three years at least.

Thanks for the reply!

My degree: Philosophy


I made an appointment with my accountant to get some advice on how to procede, and I will be speaking with a lawyer as well.

Unfortunately it looks like I will have to put some time into working an office job to save up the initial investment, but I figure it's never too early to start planning.

I really don't know where to begin, I'm a very humble person and so the thought of asking for a large sum of money is difficult to process.


I realize I'll be in the red for quite some time, but I guess I need to figure out at what point I will be able to turn a profit and what I'll need to be producing to get to that point.

Sigh.

just speculating

I want to say up-front that I'm just speculating, I have NO first hand knowledge about running a business like this, but I have considered the possibilities myself.

So~ I'm a *bit* older than you are (DON'T call me old though!) but I think you and I are in similiar circumstances at this point. All plan, not ready for action. So, what I'm thinking is that now is the time to be "Networking". Seems to me a lot of the very successful breeders often have someone elses high end animal on "Breeding loan" or are their high end animal is at someone elses for a "Breeding loan." Well this sounds like a great plan to expand stock, you purchase one high end male, breed with him for a season or two, then "Loan" him to a trusted friend and borrow a different high end male from that breeder (Or arrange to obtain a percent of the clutch, or however you want to work it). Also now is the time to prove that your a man(or woman) with integrity. When potential customers ask about you, you want other people to honestly be able to say "Well, I may not have bought an animal from him (or her) but I have talked herps with him (or her) for a few years now and I don't know many more stand up guys than him (or her!)."

But NONE of this is possible without Networking now. Really, no one in their right mind will loan out thier high end animal to you for any reason unless they feel they can trust you 100%. So now is the time to start making friends and proving your integrity now (avoid some of the stupid mistakes in integrity we have seen on the BOI recently).

Good luck!
(Please excuse the even worse than usual spelling errors tonight, I'm on the kids PC and they have one of those stupid split keyboards)

Interesting.
You now say “I'm 21 years old and in college, but studying something completely unrelated and ultimately will not find a high paying job with that degree.”.

So why in 9/2002 did you tell me different?

Hi pot, this is the kettle... you're black.

Mario, give it a rest. Have you ever heard of changing your plans?

Oh, I'm sorry, I am sure you are doing the same things you said you were some time ago. Oh, you mean you have changed your plans before. Oh, shame on you.

Steven Feil

Yeah I am a bad guy too.
In 1990-1992 I was a Biomedical Engineering student. Going for med school
1992-1995 I changed from accounting to countless other stuff to computer science.

Now I am working in a lab.

Shame on me for being different so many times.

Give what a rest? Sorry I take what Steve did very seriously and intend to take matters future. This may be a game to him, but with some of us, this is our lively hoods. It’s interesting to see how you are “staying out of this”. But point is, Steve done nothing but slander me. And he’s attempting to do something else here. Looks like he is looking for loans, grant’s or money. And he appears not to be truthful here. So I am pointing out the details.
He came on which looks to me a way to get money, but is only stating have the facts. To what deceive someone into giving him a grant or loan? He stated he was studying something completely unrelated. Yet months earlier he has told me he was a pre-vet. It also looks to me as there was some effort to portray himself as just getting involved with animals. Yet he told me different on that, he’s been involved with them practically his whole life.
I tried to want you people about him but was just attacked. Now I am pointing out these fact’s and I am still being attacked. Why? He obviously didn’t disagree with it. No he just make a comment about tea kettles. I believe it was to portrait that he just burnt me on some issue when in fact I just showed where he has said two separate things. Apparently it seems to me he said’s what he want’s to for the betterment of himself. And will bend the truth to do so.. I seen this guy do many unethical deeds. And if by proving Steve’s false interpretations of himself will help show what I was saying was accurate, then I will do that. So it does do a duel purpose here.

1. It informs potential lenders that hey, this guy is not telling the complete story. So this may worry them as a return for their investment and for good reasons, it’s their money at stake.
2. It shows Steve’s true character.
3. By showing Steve’s true colors, people will get a better understanding of what really went on with his attacks on me and he wasn’t shooting a strait arrow. This will help show the accuracy in my statements that were falsely twisted around.

But hey if you don’t want the public to know about the truth then hey fine. But standing up for someone deceitful actions and attacking the one that exposes them, well the public can best decide on that.
Now being this was the site Steve has done this too me and being the site people come too look for fraudulent people and being the place where Steve appears to deceive people for potential financial aid of some sort, well I would think it is appropriate for me to have questioned why the statements were different.
And BTW, I did get emails of the transcripts from a other person on their convo with Steve on the events that were happening. Yes they are in email from a person. And it does show other’s know of what Steve said and did as a troll on other forums. Something which I was attacked for. You know what his comment was to this person was? “No comment? =\”. And this was after Steve brought it up as well trying to lie to someone face about it. That’s bold, and show’s the lengths he will go through to lie and harm my name or others. I can forward you a copy if you like.
But here is that’s section of the convo.

acebeck (10:38:51 PM): Mario is walking a fine line by accusing me
of bragging about raping children. That is not exactly looking
good for his character. And frankly, I ran a supervised minority
youth group that was a part of a social group of over 200 active
members. It is a very poor line of attack...
krin_kel6868 (10:39:31 PM): well you DID post that as the troll if
i remember correctly, but i refuse to back up that statement
because its disgusting
acebeck (11:01:00 PM): no comment? =\

Now it shows that
1. Steve is trying to cover his tracks on this.
2. Rakell knew full well what he said
3. Steve having nothing to say when confronted on this but no comment.

Rakell was right, this was disgusting. Im sorry I had to be the one to point this out for everyone, but I could not let him get away with this. It was disgusting, but the problem is. Steve was the one that said it. I was the one that exposed him. While I couldn’t portray any evidence on this at the time, this didn’t mean I just made this up. This men’t I didn’t have evidence conveniently available. But people then think I am making crap up and getting real dirty with it. No, like I said before I was portraying the whole situation as I recalled it at the time. People I don’t make stuff up. I am an adult here. And I am fully aware of liability issues at hand to make something up like this. But now I do have the proof and evidence. It has came gracefully in email after I exposed it, putting my self on the limb here to expose this creep. All’s I did was get attacked for it and people soon looked for way’s to really do damage to me for saying such a thing.
When I say I tell stuff at face value, this is because I do. All the details were a little fuzzy when I made reference to his comments and I wasn’t able to find evidence to support it, but I did make all attempts to expose him properly. And now I do have a email with a convo from him and Rakell talking about this. Now obviously if he didn’t say those things, he would have had comments other then “no comment” when confronted privately about this. Obviously everything I post on here is just thrown out the window. So I do have this in email form and can forward this to anyone that want’s too see the accuracy of my statements. And yes there is many other forms of lies he tries to tell Rakell as well in this. To me it looks like he’s trying to brainwash her into believing something that’s not true.
While Rakell made little effort to stand by me in public, she does portrait a different side publicly and directly with Steve. Steve is very manipulative and this email proves it. I have actually a whole collection of emails.
I think what’s more disgusting is the fact that people would allow someone to twist things around like this and not say anything. That’s what’s truly disgusting.

To Rakell,
I’m sorry Rakell, but you needed to come clean right up front. I still honor our friendship, but like I mentioned before, you weren’t helping me and made a comment that was extremely detrimental in that it falsely portrayed the facts to cover your @ss while letting you true friend get his livelihood and reputation ruined on this. You knew the truth and it was important to say it. Like I mentioned before to you, I know have to do what I have to do to show my innocence and the truth of the situation. This was the only way you and a other’s have left me to do so. I truly do hate showing info that I share privately with friends. Unfortunaly sometimes it is necessary. So I hope you understand and know I do still honor our friendship. But yes I was deeply hurt by this. And I did feel somewhat betrayed and our friendship took a big blow. But just as you didn’t ask for all this trouble, neither did I. It was Steve who caused this whole mess.

To everyone
I try not to betray my friendships with people. So when they want info kept in confidence I do try to keep m word. Unfortunately situations like this are drastic. And I expect a friend to be understanding and step up for a friends when someone is doing them wrong. This is what friendship is all about. Sometimes you have to swallow a little pride or take a little heat, or take a risk to be a true friend. See I learned what true friendship is. Many people here have not. This comes with experience. You learn what true friendship is compared to who your drinking buddies are or your business relationship’s are when you are standard in the cold with no place to go and your so called “friends” will not inconvenient their life for you. But a true friend will be their for you in thick and thin. I’m not saying a true friend will lie for you, but they will be their for you when you are honest and truthful. I also have enough experience with the internet to know people cannot fully trust another person they do not know personally. But this does cause a problem as well. Like in this situation. I don’t think Rakell truly knows how much I consider her as a friend and would not just stab her in the back like others do. Just because you only know someone online, doesn’t mean a true friendship cannot occur.
I have talked to Rakell in private about this whole situation and how I felt. I know how she felt as well. I can understand someone trying to legally protect themselves instead of steeping up to the plate and take a risk on a friendship they might consider as unsure of. It takes a lot for someone to do this. So I can’t entirely fault Rakell for not saying anything upfront about this. Though I do forgive her and hope that these event’s did not destroy a “true friendship” situation. This is something that I hold very valuable. As with age you learn the true meaning of “true friendship”. And I only say this before someone again questions my ethics for posting info that wasn’t meant to be shared publicly. The real ethical turning would have occurred on where the ethics would have been to not say something to begin and cause for no other resort then to post. Like I said, this has already been of concern in private with a other person, so I am nipping this loose string right off the bat before that becomes another chest thumping attack on me.

Again, I do have the evidence now in email format that can be forwarded. My advice would be for anyone else that wants to just play sides and lie for someone they think is their friend to re-evaluate what they are doing. Because like I mentioned before I do plan on taking matter’s further on this. And true evidence in on my hard drive and burned on cd’s. While it may hold little water reprinted on this forum, it’s does hold more water to the real legal system when the integrity of the evidence I displayed proves to be just that, true and accurate.

After I posted my statement, I went through and seen Ritchies post. So I have to add this.

Now that’s interesting Ritchie, before you tried to portrait an image of computer illiteracy when it came to viruses and proxies, but now you say you took computer science?
See this is what I’m talking about. Your stories keep changing, fact’s twisted, and falsehoods provided. And all to dismiss anything I bring present and to attack my character when you don’t know me. So yes Ritchie this does make you a “bad guy”. You have done this to deceive the public who the real culprit was.

Now that’s interesting Ritchie, before you tried to portrait an image of computer illiteracy when it came to viruses and proxies, but now you say you took computer science?

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Spring 1995 changed to Computer science major. April 1995 went into the army. So as you can see I did not even finish the semester.

Mario give it a rest.

Sorry I take what Steve did very seriously and intend to take matters future

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So are you gonna sue him yet or what? Oh I forgot that was just all talk. So are you gonna follow him around wherever he goes and cause trouble?

He came on which looks to me a way to get money, but is only stating have the facts. To what deceive someone into giving him a grant or loan?

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He was not asking anyone here for money. He was asking how to obtain such money. H3e was asking information on how to get a business started.

But point is, Steve done nothing but slander me.

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Oh no here we go again. We went through a millin gazzillion pages on your thread...and you still do not know the difference between slander and libel is.

One thing is for sure. The Mario posting tonight is the Mrio that does not have dyslexia and he can spell.

See this is what I’m talking about. Your stories keep changing, fact’s twisted, and falsehoods provided

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So Mario...what story did I change?

And all to dismiss anything I bring present and to attack my character when you don’t know me.

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I don't see my first post in this thread as an attack on you....as a matter of fact I did not even mention your name.

So yes Ritchie this does make you a “bad guy”

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Okay I am a bad guy because you told everyone I sent you a virus....Which you faked the evidence. Then you told everyone I hacked into your computer. Which you still have not shown evidence. Give it a rest Mario. Didn't you say this site is a waste of your time? What are you doing here then?

But hey if you don’t want the public to know about the truth then hey fine. But standing up for someone deceitful actions and attacking the one that exposes them, well the public can best decide on that.

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Well thank you for exposing that he was pre vet. It does not mean anything. Everyone can be pre vet. Everyone can change majors. As a matter of fact Pre med and Pre vet are not majors. They are not even minors. They are a certain number of classes that you take to get you ready for your MCAT or the Vet test (whatever they are called)

Heck I was once Pre Med.
I got side tracked. To many good looking girls at Arizona State. (Playboy's number one party school) I was "Pre Med" the whole two years that I was Biomedical Engineering student..

it does not mean anything.

Him looking for a loan does not mean He is trying to scam money from us.

he wants to start a business.

It informs potential lenders that hey, this guy is not telling the complete story. So this may worry them as a return for their investment and for good reasons, it’s their money at stake.

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Wow....thank you for pointing this out. I did not know banks and other credit institutions read this site. Thanks for being so informative. Now go ask your lawyer the difference between libel and slander.

Response to Ritchie
1. The problem is because their was a worm sent to me, you tried to cover up an knowledge that you would know any info about computer literacy. That’s the problem. That future lead’s me to believe it was you that sent the worm. Again I still did not say it was you, but it sure does look like it to me. Because you sure aren’t as computer illiterate as you tried to portrait yourself as. This is the problem.
2. As you I am sure of already know and many other’s do know, a lawsuit takes time. There are many step’s that need to be taken to do so. Sure anyone can just run to the court and file a lawsuit. But it’s important to take time and do things properly and cover all the bases. Lawsuits are also expensive, very expensive. So to hire an attorney you have to have the money to pay them. And before anyone said’s on contingence basis. This raises other concerns. It can be very hard to find the proper attorney for the situation that will take a case on a contingency basis for such as this. As for winning and collecting are too separate things. If I filled a case, I would probably win, but collecting would be a different story. So if you want to give me the money to afford a proper attorney then fine. But I frankly do not have the thousands of dollars to spend on one every time someone wants to attack me. But actually Ritchie you have done enough damage to me as well so if I was you I would hope I didn’t file a lawsuit. Not to mention it would be in your best interest that I didn’t file one on Steve because your partaking in on the issues here. But I am basically at that point now where I am left with little alternative. But as far as following him around to cause trouble no. But I do come here to see if more was said. And I did stumble on this post. I have seen where other’s have made little referring comments before, so this would be common place here. I have a right to defend my name. Also I thought this was the site to expose con’s. Or am I wrong? Or would it be the place where people form a clique to just defame the competition and deceive the true initiative’s of this site? I know my views and opinions of this site have changed. I also thought this site was of ethical proportions as I read up on a lot of a other case where some guys store was robbed what 3 times. I believe he was part of the “clique” here and members chipped in the hire a PI to investigate what happened. But now I see things have turned and the guy is not liked and attacked. I was waiting to see this PI report too. Seems odd that it wasn’t released and this guy seems to have been the bad guy according to may post’s. Seems like many people were wrong and wanted to defend this guy and now it seems like he did something of wrong but the report to possibly prove this is being covered up? My details are probably a little off but that’s what things seem to me. That questions the integrity of what happens here as well.
3. Right, exactly. But he’s also not providing accurate info to do so. That’s the problem. That’s called fraud from my understanding.
4. Ok I was under a misunderstanding of the difference between slander and libel. I just looked it up real quick. Again, I’m not an attorney. But they do basically mean the same thing expect slander means it’s spoken and libel means it’s written. But there is also another thing I can think of right off the top of my head as well, that’s called defamation of character. Again this is why I would have to hire an attorney, so justice is done.
5. Their was many. Like saying I said you sent me the virus. No I said I suspected it was you. As there is enough supporting evidence to suggest to me that you may have sent this.
6. I consider it an indirect attack to discredit my character and the facts at hand while attempting to change the issue at hand. Again, this seems to be common place here.
7. Again I didn’t say you sent it, I said it’s from someone with the same ISP and said you look real suspicious. Again here showing you twisting things around on me. And the screenshot I posted again was a obvious sarcastic jester to mock what you believe is evidence and not and the mock the way you people handle things here and how you have treated me. It’s a picture that basically speaks a thousand words. It was not evidenced as fake evidence to prove you sent me that email. But it showed that the one thing you did say to me that was evidence can be changed and modified. Even the reference’s of your Hitler comments and wife were pushed to the extreme to show the sarcasm and mockery here. /the picture of the doggy do was intentailly set off the side of the page to show this. It even was made to suggest your believe or portrayal in evidence is crap. Now obviously if it was evidence it could not be changed. But it was changed. So how can that be what you consider evidence or hold any more credibility over transcripts that were reposted on the forum? The point I was making was clearly shown. I believe you even commented on the fact you knew the sacristicness in this in a number of words. Again I don’t know your exact words off hand, but I don’t have time to deal with this ridiculous forms of attack. It was quit interesting to see a select few get all defensive over a picture of dog crap on the computer screen. I frankly had a hard time not laughing after seeing it. And heck I believe these same members took part in a string of tasteless Jew jokes and Italian jokes. While I can laugh at a good joke, it was tasteless to do so on a public forum like this and kind of insulting. Pretty disturbing if you ask me, get all defensive offer a picture of dog poop that is obvious sarcasm and trying to say oh I am swearing and everything else when the people will go and make racial jokes. But it’s hard for me to give the deformation to my character rest. I take this serious and always tried to establish the best name for myself. When you work as long and as hard as myself to earn a honest and respected name, you would also be upset when someone’s lies falsely destroy this. So no, I cannot rest well at night because of this.

Now I believe their was a about my dyslexia again. That’s something you should give a rest. It’s called spell check. And I do not think you are qualified to diagnosis anyone with dyslexia. Heck I even thing you have a grave disbelief on what dyslexia is. You may want to research it some time. I know I was quite fascinated to learn more about it.

Now to your second post as I just hit refresh after finishing writing and see that I need to continue.
But to discuses the first topic.
The issue at hand is the fact I showed the story is being changed. He made claim to “studying something completely unrelated”. But yet made claim before to be studying to become a vet. He has made other claims and or inforendiums to be in college or a university to become a vet. And here I have shown where he has made claims to this. Now either one of the statements or both are false, but why? Obviously it looks to me as an attempt to deceive the public as he had deceived me to his knowledge and look as if he had formal education in the matter to win the respect and trust of the public. Isn’t that what part of the site is about? To expose people that are frauding people? The same people that would be buying animals from him what these loans would be assumed for?
I did not know it was ethical to lie to people so they think you are providing answers to their gecko questions that are based by formal training. And this being to establish a relationship to a potential customer. This is right to do? Lie to people about your qualifications? I can’t say he whether he is or isn’t a pre-vet, but he did give too different statements on this, obviously to defraud the public’s perception and the persuade them into thinking he’s a good guy when he doesn’t tell the complete truth. I cannot accurately say what his goals were in doing so, but I can say they were not of ethical proportions. And it also points out the fact that what he said’s cannot be token as totally truthful, which seems to be the basis of his attacks that have token place onto me.
Now if this site is to help let the public know of people not telling the truth to them, why am I getting attacked for pointing this out? Their sure hasn’t seem to be much urgency to work the situation at hand here but only to attack the messenger again. My evidence has been displayed and can be provided. Their was no effort to deny it or even say hey wait a minute, this Steve guy is not telling the truth. No it’s lets gang up on the messenger again.
But atleast so far there is a different tone that is taken here so far then the lets attack and flame Mario that has happened before. But it’s interesting to see where the ethics lie on sticking up for these fraudulent activities while attacking the messenger again.
So I ask why the need to stick up for this guy so strongly?
I also want to point out that back in the first post you said that I am following him around to cause trouble. How is it I am the one causing trouble, the site is here to help expose people that to unjust, this is what I did. Steve defamed my character here. He was the one that started this whole ordeal and attacked me falsely. This is where trouble is being caused. I come with evidence to prove false doing’s and I am labeled as a trouble maker?
As for following him around, no I have better things to do with my time. More important things. And yes one of them thing’s is being on the lookout for trouble from this person.
In fact we recently had a troll post on my forum. Steve appears to be causing trouble for me and following me around and harassing me. Oh he’s tried covering his tracks when I caught on to him. But have IP log’s to verify his activity. Rakell has spoken with him and I have copy’s of them transcripts as well. I have also talked to his friend Cassian, apparently Steve find’s this humorous. I don’t. This is harassment. And frankly my visitors and member’s do not come to my site to see Steve troll it. They come to learn and look for answers, have fun and share their knowledge. But their has been a string of troll’s since this. A problem that has not been a problem before and has proved him t connection with atleast one other account used in doing so. And yes I believe the transcripts form Rakell are also in email form as well. It’s hard to have fun and run a respectable forum when theirs a person out their that stops at no lengths to destroy that.
You keep saying oh just put it to rest, well it’s kind of hard when the other party isn’t.

You know, I just reread something that I believe I didn’t catch the first time.
You state “you told everyone I hacked into your computer. Which you still have not shown evidence. Give it a rest Mario.”.
No Ritchie I didn’t say you hacked into my computer. About this is were you perople twist what I said around.
But here is what I said

“I will not condone hack attempt’s Richie. I can only assume who sent the email was from you since it is from your same internet provider and quincedently you have already attacked me publicly on here, my site, and in email either way, I am not tolerating that one bit.”

I made first a statement that I do not condone hack attempts. This did not say I said you have hacked my computer. And this was followed by I can only assume who sent the email was from you. I clearly said I can only assume. I did not say it was you. But you sure do seem to take a lot of effort to keep saying I said something which I didn’t. It was other’s who said this first that I said that you hacked in my computer. Again you people trying to put words in my mouth. I also said clearly “attempts” as well. Attempts and did are too separate things.
So if anyone needs to give it a rest it’s you. You keep twisting what I say around. I believe this would fall under deformation of character.

That future lead’s me to believe it was you that sent the worm.

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(you seem to confuse the correct usage of the term future) but anyway......It came from someone with my same ISP...so it leads you to believe it was me? You know my IP address. You know it was not me. If I used some kind of Proxy....you know it would be totally different from my ISP and IP address. Do not insinuate and assume to much loudly or in public writing. Because YOU are the one on borderline Defemation of character.

It can be very hard to find the proper attorney for the situation that will take a case on a contingency basis for such as this

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In your other posts you said the ball was already rolling. Now we find out you do not even have a lawyer who will take this case.

But actually Ritchie you have done enough damage to me as well so if I was you I would hope I didn’t file a lawsuit.

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Sorry sir....You have done the damage to yourself. All I did was point out holes in your story. Better go read your thread again. it can be found here. http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13487 I guees if someone shows holes in your story...I guess in your world that is ground for a lawsuit. I still want you to file your lawsuit. You said the ball was rolling. Come on....another lie? another whole in your story? What happened to the lawyer you said you already had? another lie?

Not to mention it would be in your best interest that I didn’t file one on Steve because your partaking in on the issues here.

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I pointed out holes in your story..... So sue me already.

But I am basically at that point now where I am left with little alternative.

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Some people can't take the hint or can't read. SO SUE ME ALREADY !!!!!!!!

But I do come here to see if more was said. And I did stumble on this post. I have seen where other’s have made little referring comments before, so this would be common place here. I have a right to defend my name

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Yes you have a right to defend your name....but can you point out in where in his first post he even mentions you? Mario you are not as BIG as you think you are (ouch that hurt). We do not just sit around thinking about you all day (ouch the truth hurts). Not every breath out of our body or every word we type will mention you like you think and want us too.

I made first a statement that I do not condone hack attempts. This did not say I said you have hacked my computer. And this was followed by I can only assume who sent the email was from you

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Why even mention it then. Sort of like me saying... Hey Mario..I do not condone raping little children. Shame on you.
Yes on this quote you said "attempts". But isn't there another quote were you implied someone wa successful in hacking your site or computer? Mario quit back peddling. The other thread was locked because I would show holes in your story and you would back peddle. So it got old.


Go ahead and sue me. the judge will think exactly like everyone else who has pm'd me or e-mailed me. He will think you shot yourself in the foot. You damaged yourself. Your "friends" don't even want to post for you. You gotta cry and beg for them to post. AWWW sowwy your feewings are hurt. Then you want to log on with your proxy and pretend to be a friend who is defending you. So the only other person who defends you besides Rackell is a completely made up person.

No this board is not for exposing cons.
The BOI is for exposing cons.
This forum you are posting in is for asking about business. Hence the tittle "General Business Discussions" But I guess you can't tell the difference.


On your first post....Yes you showed he trolled another board. It is over. You showed that on the other thread too. Is he denying that he trolled another board? NO. So what is your point?
The difference between your thread and this thread? In this thread you forgot to post how you condoned his attacks on your competitions board.

YES WORLD !!! MARIO STINSO CONDONES TROLL ATTACKS ON HIS COMPETITIONS BOARD.

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That’s something you should give a rest. It’s called spell check. And I do not think you are qualified to diagnosis anyone with dyslexia

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Are you now saying you do not have dyslexia?

Should I get the quote where you said you had dyslexia?
Should I go get the quote where even your one and only side kick Rackel says you have dyslexia?

Now whose story is changing.

But then again you are gonna back peddle and claim that you never denied having dyslexia.

Mario Viewing Printable Version of Thread The next kingsnake?

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Mario make sure you print it all. Make sure you give the WHOLE copy to your lawyer that you say you have...Then again you came back and said you do not have on....

shoot your story changes so much.

p.s. when you sue me. make sure you stick to one story.
The judge is probablynot gonna be as stupid as you wish him to be.

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Why dredge up this peice of trash 2 yrs later?

I was reading this and another topic at the same time and replied to this one on accident, I can't delete my post so????