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2 Desert females on EGGS!!

That is AWESOME!
There may be hope yet for the desert genes females.
 
Once they figure out what causes the breeding issues, the desert gene will take off.
Looks like not only a combo desert laid viable eggs but a single desert gene female.

I'm cynical and can't help but wonder if the issue had been solved for a while and we are just now hearing of it. I know when the market crashed on desert females, a lot of larger breeders snapped up all available females.

There may yet be hope for my desert spider girl.
 
I'm surprised there isn't more discussion on this....

Or is it b/c everybody is over at the other place?

Steve, in your opinion, what possible solution could there be? I have seen lots of comments on this topic similar to yours, and I always wonder what is meant....

I mean, if there is something "wrong" with the gene, what could be done to "fix" it? Its seems too easy to think that crossing deserts with a mystery animal that has "great fertility genetics" ( I don't know what that would be called) and the result would be desert females that are fertile.

Also, lets say 1 in 100 female deserts are fertile and lay good eggs..... Does that turn the desert project around?

Curious what people think!
 
jack2682 said:
I'm surprised there isn't more discussion on this....

Or is it b/c everybody is over at the other place?

Steve, in your opinion, what possible solution could there be? I have seen lots of comments on this topic similar to yours, and I always wonder what is meant....

I mean, if there is something "wrong" with the gene, what could be done to "fix" it? Its seems too easy to think that crossing deserts with a mystery animal that has "great fertility genetics" ( I don't know what that would be called) and the result would be desert females that are fertile.

Also, lets say 1 in 100 female deserts are fertile and lay good eggs..... Does that turn the desert project around?

Curious what people think!
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I am wondering if combining one mutation with the desert gene can cancel out the fertility issue. If it does, and offspring from that combo don't have fertility issues, there might be a way to selectively breed viable clutch producing females. The different genes can act upon each other in different ways. For example, woma x any other gene is fine. Woma x woma results in weak babies that don't survive.
If there is a way of "switching on" the reproductive system of female deserts, that would be a huge discovery.
 
i am actually in steve' corner on this.i am a huge fan of the desert combos...there are so many questions to be answered about the females that laid.were they more on the larger size with more fat reserve or just the usual 1500 gram.as much i do agree with you steve on the double or triple gene mix with desert making them more of a chance of laying viable eggs.but how many people are still working with desert females after so many unsuccessful clutches? i mean im not raining on anyone's parade by any means,but i am not running out to pick up desert females.i would imagine that if there was proven viable egg layers out there people would be scratching each other's eyes out to get them.but until i see more than 2 females lay good eggs,then i am just gonna sit back and watch.there is still 60 days of incubation for the eggs...will we see desert babies live and well or will there be issue? just soooo many questions still.

just my 4 cent's
 
As far as I know, 1 clutch hatched, and they were all multiple gene animals, and many people felt that none of the combos had desert, the other "clutch" seems to have vanished....
 
I believe most people felt the female on the eggs was not actually a desert, and the babies didn't appear to have desert in them either.
 
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