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2024 Corns and Ratsnakes. Trade or Sell

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Late in the year for us to be posting but with our relocation we had to push all our breedings to later in the year.
Great quality this year but no second clutches.
All have been fed several times and have gone through 2-3 sheds.
Red Factor Candy Canes, Red Factor Snows. Breeding was Motley Salmon Snow het Stripe x Candy Cane het Anery het Motley.
All the Candy Canes are het Anery, all hatchlings are either Motley or Het Motley, and all are possible het Stripe.
Tesseras, het Amel. These are from a test breeding, inquire about the other genetics.
We also have pure Kisatchie Ratsnakes available. We raised our breeders from hatchlings that we got from Brad Lichtenhan. We
recently sent our breeders to KJ Lodrigue. If you’re familiar with this species then you know who these breeders are. There are only
a few breeders working with these Ratsnakes and they have been kept pure.
***TRADES*** We are more interested in trades than cash. Be prepared to ship first unless we have done business in the past,
NO exceptions. References Available, just ask.
We would like to add some high end Corn snakes to a few of our projects. Albino Palmetto, Orchids, Lavenders, Scaleless. We are also very interested in trading for the following items. Vortex or Leupold Rangefinders, Spotting Scopes, Binoculars. Also looking for High end PCP air rifles.
Cash can be added to any trade as needed.
Thanks for reading our post.
John Q
 
The adults Kisatchie corns that I recently got from John Q are beautiful, top-of-the-line Texas P. slowinskii. If you are looking for this species, I can't recommend his babies enough!

-KJ Lodrigue
 
Hello,

Are your Kisatchies wildtypes, or are they visual/het for any morphs?

Thank you.
When we obtained our breeders as hatchlings from Brad Lichtenhan we were told that they could be het for Anery. In two breedings, 20+ hatchlings, no Anery hatchlings. If only one of our breeders is het, the results of the two breedings are the expected results but the hatchlings could still be “possible hets”.
 
For anyone interested, I think these Texas locality Kisatchie corn snakes have an interesting history. I lived in Grimes County, TX, a little over 15 years ago in a pocket where Kisatchie corn snakes were pretty common. I even had a few I caught in my 2 acre yard. We'd ride the 4 wheeler up and down the rock road by the house and see at least one most spring evenings. (Sadly, the habitat has been mostly replaced with houses; the road is now paved and much busier. )

As with any such population, we saw a lot of variability in the colour range. They went from blotches that were really dull black to a mahogany (similar to LA populations) - and everything in-between. We caught them and produced them in those colour ranges. We had been breeding them - and photographing them - for a few years before a friend asked why some of the ones we showed him had BLACK eyes instead of the normal brown. Well, darn. I never noticed it, but the ones with the dull black blotches were dark-eyed anerythristics (aka DE Aners). We proved it out as a simple recessive trait, and we tested some of the wild ones against the CB ones. Yep, the DE Aners were not that rare in that wild population! I had collected Homozygous normals, heterozygous for DE aners, and visual DE aners in the wild on that same road!

Just like anerythristic corn snakes are common in some areas of Florida, we had lucked into a location where the DE Aner Kisatchies were mixed into the wild "normal" looking wild ones. It makes sense! These guys really don't live on the surface and are naturally dark, so an Aner isn't THAT different! Survival should be similar to the "normal " look .

On a side note, Bill Dickens collected the first Silverleaf Kistachie a few miles away from where I was catching some DE Aner Kisatchies. Bill Dickens didn't breed snakes, so Graham Criglow got him to loan the original male to me for breeding purposes. (Bill later gave me the snake outright.) I proved out Silverleaf as a simple recessive trait. This makes both of these Kisatchie morphs locality Grimes County snakes.

Anyway, I did breed the DE Aner to the Silverlaf, and I got the double hets. I bred the double hets together, but I got out of snakes before I lucked into a known double visual homozygous animal. (Brad has produced the double homozygous!) The aforementioned Brad got some from me, some from Graham that came from me, and some from Mikey Leidner that also came from me. JohnQ got his from Brad.

In other words, the trail from JohnQ to me to the wild population in Grimes county, TX is known! I'm thankful to JohnQ and a few others (including Brad) for helping me get my old stock back.

-KJ
 
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