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Good Guy American Reptile Distributors aka William Gangemi

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On January 3rd, I received 1.1 Elephant Trunk Snakes from William. Thank goodness he packed them well since they were left by our side door in 40' weather! Delivery service did not ring our doorbell or even leave them by the front door. Fortunately, a friend happen to come over and saw the box.

The snakes were newborn but looked to be healthy.

In the last 4 days they have fed on 25 Rosy Reds and look they they have even grown a bit since I go them.

Thanks William! :D
 
He's a convicted animal smuggler, but no worries if he's selling something that looks good...

I don't believe anybody attempted to make the claim that his elephant trunk snakes looking healthy would excuse any criminal allegations. I don't know any details surrounding that and I am not a lawyer so I cannot pretend I am qualified to provide any input there.

I do know where the trunk snakes originated and who imported them, and that they were not smuggled. Somebody said they were in good shape and I agreed, as I saw them myself as well.

Have a great day!
 
I don't believe anybody attempted to make the claim that his elephant trunk snakes looking healthy would excuse any criminal allegations.

He plead guilty; it is not a matter of "allegations": https://www.justice.gov/usao-sc/pr/new-jersey-man-pleads-guilty-turtle-trafficking

Presumably, Elena means not that the particular snakes being discussed were smuggled. But calling a wildlife trafficker a "good guy" simply because he sold nice snakes is clearly questionable.
 
Can’t believe the “self-righteous indignation” of sf some individuals. He screwed up, and has paid or will pay for it in the future. If the guy is sorry for what he did, and doesn't repeat this illegal behavior again, then that’s good enough for me. All these “sinless” people throwing stones; and I am NOT minimizing the crime he committed, all I’m saying is people make mistakes, sometimes serious ones, and pay the price, do their due diligence and move on. Other “holier-than-thou” individuals (and there are many), never seem able to do the said same.
 
then that’s good enough for me.

Great. We're all happy that you're satisfied. Now, the turtles he smuggled -- they're not so happy. But really, you're satisfied, so that's what's important. Not like anyone around here should be concerned about wild reptile populations, I guess.
 
Of course we shouldn't be concerned, as long as Leyna imagines that he is sorry.
 
Elena, re-read my post. I said IF he is sorry, which means I really don’t know one way or the other, but thanks for proving the point I was making.
 
Elena, re-read my post. I never said or imagined that he was sorry, I said IF he is/was. It goes without saying that that statement is purely speculative. Thanks for making my intended point however.
 
If Elena's point depends on a change in one word of a thoughtless rant, I'll eat the Bible that Leyna's apparently choking on in post #8.
 
Leyna, you defended him. Then you said your defense was contingent on him being sorry. Why don't you re-read your own post, and see if you understand it.
 
:rofl::rofl:"I am NOT minimizing the crime he committed" :rofl::rofl:

Funny that you say this as the rest of your post does indeed attempt to minimize the crimes committed. It is baffling, and sad, to know that some seem to care so very little about animal smuggling in the very hobby devoted to these species.
 
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndok/pr/new-jersey-man-pleads-guilty-smuggling-over-1000-illegally-collected-box-turtles


Department of Justice
U.S. Attorney’s Office
Northern District of Oklahoma

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Wednesday, October 23, 2019

New Jersey Man Pleads Guilty to Smuggling Over 1,000 Illegally Collected Box Turtles from Oklahoma

TULSA, Okla. – A New Jersey man pleaded guilty Wednesday in federal court to conspiring with others to purchase, transport and sell more than 1,000 box turtles that were unlawfully collected from the state of Oklahoma, announced U.S. Attorney Trent Shores.

From May 1, 2017 to May 31, 2018, William T. Gangemi, 26, of Freehold, New Jersey, knowingly facilitated the purchase and transport of unlawfully collected three-toed and western (ornate) box turtles from Oklahoma to New Jersey in order to sell them for profit. Gangemi was part of a syndicate of wildlife smugglers where protected turtles were exchanged back and forth between the United States and China.

By smuggling the turtles, Gangemi violated the Lacey Act, a federal law which makes it a felony to engage in the sale or purchase of protected wildlife with a market value in excess of $350 knowing that the wildlife was taken, possessed, transported or sold in violation of laws or regulations of any state. In Oklahoma, the collection of both types of box turtles for commercial purposes is against the law. Box turtles reach sexual maturity at approximately 10 years of age and have a high nest and juvenile mortality rate. Due to these factors, the harvest of the turtles can have highly detrimental effects on populations.

“Oklahomans respect and value wildlife, and we don’t appreciate those who would seek to exploit our vulnerable wildlife populations for their corrupt greed. Laws created by Congress to protect wildlife, like the box turtle, will be enforced by the U.S. Attorney’s Office. Defendant Gangemi flagrantly violated state and federal laws by illegally collecting and exporting box turtles to the black market,” said U.S. Attorney Trent Shores. “As a result of the diligent investigative work undertaken by agents from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation, Mr. Gangemi must now face the consequences.”

“This case is an excellent example of how state and federal law enforcement agencies work together to combat the illegal wildlife trade," said Phillip Land, a Special Agent in Charge for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. "We would like to thank the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation and the U. S. Attorney's Office for their assistance with this case. Together, we can hold traffickers accountable and protect imperiled species for future generations."

As part of his plea agreement, Gangemi agreed to pay $250,000 in restitution to the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation and a $100,000 fine to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service for violation of the Lacey Act. The final restitution and fine amounts will be determined by the Court at the time of sentencing, which is scheduled for Jan. 27, 2020.

Gangemi also pleaded guilty to additional federal charges for trafficking wildlife in South Carolina and New Jersey.

The United States Fish and Wildlife Service, the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service conducted the investigation. Assistant U.S. Attorney Ryan M. Roberts is prosecuting the case.
 
Well, there's your answer, all you defenders of a :censored: scum who only gives a :censored: about his wallet and not about the law or the welfare of the animals he illegally collects, endangers and likely kills in the process.

Yeah, there's your "self-righteous indignation" right back at you. :hot:
 
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