An Awful Adoption Experience

[Lucille]

Rescues think far past the intial fee to adopt, they have to think about the emergency rescue bills that will arise should the animal become sick, or need surgery, if the owner cannot afford something like that, then they shouldnt be putting the animal in that position and should not have a pet. In this case it is better to have them be at rescue because emergencies can be addressed immediatly because they have the money to do it.

I've seen a lot of rescues begging for food, for blankets, for items for their rescue critters. It is my opinion that many smaller rescues do not in fact have the kind of funds needed for very expensive surgeries and/or emergencies. I do not think that is an adequate reason to deny someone an adoption. It is surprising just how much can be scraped together or put on a credit card if the need should come up.

 

[hadenglock]

I spent this on the dog I got from Animal Control today minus the 80.00 fecal I will be submitting tomorrow. That changes the grand total of my 75.00 dog into a 5854.14 dog in medical bills alone in three years.

I praise you on your care for your animals, which again comes back to the whole "some rescues are crazier than others" issue, i never said you personally were a bad pet owner........

 

[hadenglock]

I've seen a lot of rescues begging for food, for blankets, for items for their rescue critters. It is my opinion that many smaller rescues do not in fact have the kind of funds needed for very expensive surgeries and/or emergencies. I do not think that is an adequate reason to deny someone an adoption. It is surprising just how much can be scraped together or put on a credit card if the need should come up.

Ill disagree with you right now on that, working at a vet clinic, i have calls daily from people asking for free surgeries and free visits for their sick animals because they cant afford it, if a clinic allowed that to happen, they wouldnt be in business!! Somebody will get burned from the deal, simply because people dont want to or cant spend money on their pets when they need it the most. Also i work for a private rescue, we have our own vet who works with us, and my vet also works with other rescues too on payments, so its not impossible.

 

[hadenglock]

I've never been asked to give authorization for them to access records, either. Just asked who my vet is...and about all they can get with that is confirmation that I am a client.

Besides - the needs met for previous animals and vaccination history (etc) have NOTHING to do with financial ability to deal with a pet's medical needs. You're reaching.

you dont have to get detailed records from a client to find if they provide adequate care for there animals or not, all ive ever been asked was when the last time they were seen and if they are good clients or not depending, again, on what theyve been seen for and how theyve been treated. You dont need full access for records to get that. How does financial ability have NOTHING to do with taking your animal to vet? Can you give me an example of somebody who gets there stuff all for free?

 

[hhmoore]

I probably could, but that isn't what I was getting at.
You specifically mentioned bills that could arise if animals became sick or needed surgery - the information they could get from a vet contact wouldn't give ANY indication of that. Nor does not being in a position to spend thousands of dollars on a sick cat make somebody unfit to have that cat. Not everybody takes a treat it at all costs approach - and before anybody chimes in with the shouldn't be owning pets crap, think about it. Aside from the fact that many people are intelligent and practical, and simply unwilling to invest $3000 on an aging pet only to find that it was essentially a waste of that money, this is also the era of change. There are a lot of people that were on solid financial footing a few years ago that now find themselves struggling. If inability to pay costly medical bills for one's pets disqualifies them from pet ownership, who should be in charge of making sure our situations don't change? Who will be the one that goes to collect pets from loving, caring homes that - while able to meet the daily needs - would be unable to afford a crisis? (And who would pay the medical bills of those people, after they had the crap beat out of them for trying to take somebody's family pet?)

 

[Lucille]

Ill disagree with you right now on that, working at a vet clinic, i have calls daily from people asking for free surgeries and free visits for their sick animals because they cant afford it, if a clinic allowed that to happen, they wouldnt be in business!! Somebody will get burned from the deal, simply because people dont want to or cant spend money on their pets when they need it the most. Also i work for a private rescue, we have our own vet who works with us, and my vet also works with other rescues too on payments, so its not impossible.

In the same paragraph you illustrate people who look for help (and so they call) with an emergency, and you affirm that rescues do as well (because the vet takes payments). Neither owner nor rescue had cash up front. I appreciate that you proved my point.

 

[hadenglock]

I probably could, but that isn't what I was getting at.
You specifically mentioned bills that could arise if animals became sick or needed surgery - the information they could get from a vet contact wouldn't give ANY indication of that. Nor does not being in a position to spend thousands of dollars on a sick cat make somebody unfit to have that cat. Not everybody takes a treat it at all costs approach - and before anybody chimes in with the shouldn't be owning pets crap, think about it. Aside from the fact that many people are intelligent and practical, and simply unwilling to invest $3000 on an aging pet only to find that it was essentially a waste of that money, this is also the era of change. There are a lot of people that were on solid financial footing a few years ago that now find themselves struggling. If inability to pay costly medical bills for one's pets disqualifies them from pet ownership, who should be in charge of making sure our situations don't change? Who will be the one that goes to collect pets from loving, caring homes that - while able to meet the daily needs - would be unable to afford a crisis? (And who would pay the medical bills of those people, after they had the crap beat out of them for trying to take somebody's family pet?)

Except now your talking about people who already own their pets and then later are financially unable to care for them.Even if this were the case wouldnt it be smart to set money aside every so often in a savings account to then use later in case an emergency should happen? Or apply for care credit? (ive seen the bill of the previous poster uses care credit which is a good option for those who are stuck in a rut). The point im trying to make is why even adopt an animal if you cant take care of him? I understand when euthanasia is the only practical option, but thats beside the point. What happens when someone adopts a puppy from a shelter, breaks its leg, and then cant afford to care for it? Is it the puppy's fault for breaking its leg and having a permanent limp for the rest of its life? Whose responsible for it? The owner is, and yes i do believe that is bad pet ownership coming from a medical standpoint.

 

[hadenglock]

In the same paragraph you illustrate people who look for help (and so they call) with an emergency, and you affirm that rescues do as well (because the vet takes payments). Neither owner nor rescue had cash up front. I appreciate that you proved my point.

Im not proving your point because rescues that come in receive discounts, not payment plans, they still pay there bills when due. sorry for the confusion.

 

[Lucille]

I remember a couple times I had doings with rescues in the past few years. The first is on a chat group, where the rescuer admitted there was nothing wrong with the adopter, she just wanted someone else to get the dog. Apparently when the vet report came in, lo and behold, there was some small item that she could use to knock the previous applicant out of the ring and give the dog to her preferred applicant.

The other time is when I actually asked about a dog in a rescue.
The woman, getting geared up to hear all about my private life, sounded like a fat lady in front of a steak and baked po, and I realized I was the main course.
When she started talking about coming over, I told her to keep her dog.

There are MORE than enough strays, shelter doggies, and Craigslist finds to last a lifetime.
No one is putting sour cream and bacon bits on Lucille

 

[SilverRaichu]

I remember a couple times I had doings with rescues in the past few years. The first is on a chat group, where the rescuer admitted there was nothing wrong with the adopter, she just wanted someone else to get the dog. Apparently when the vet report came in, lo and behold, there was some small item that she could use to knock the previous applicant out of the ring and give the dog to her preferred applicant.

This was probably the case with the North Carolina rescue. When I first applied, they denied me because of the distance. I didn't submit a new one, I just asked them to reconsider my application. They could of easily said something about my app right there. Nope they just gave me false hope instead!

 

[SilverRaichu]

I left a message on their page, I was real mature in my message and I still wasnt given the decency of a response but it looks like I am not the only person having some troubles with this rescue as well

 

[Lucille]

Stephanie, if you are pretty certain that you will never get that dog (and I'm sorry if that is the case) why not send them a link to this thread ?

 

[SilverRaichu]

i meant to include a link in that last thread XD
https://www.facebook.com/permalink....69918&comment_id=5496545&notif_t=feed_comment

but yes i didnt think of that

 

[SilverRaichu]

Okay, I seriously need feed back right now, PLEASE. The unthinkable happened.. I received a response from FHS:

"Sorry we have kinda left you on the back burner. We have been going through some personal issues lately and have not been responded to emails and phone calls accordingly. We are in KY at the moment. Connor is still in a foster home. We are rehabilitating there lab mix for dog aggression at the moment. They want to keep Connor but only if it is a success with their other dog. When we get back from KY 2-step the lab mix will be going home. If Connor and 2step do not get along on 2steps end they will be returning Connor back to us. I will contact you either way if it is a success or not and you will have first tibs of Connor. Connor is great with other dogs and cats. He can be nervous of people mainly men but has made great progress being in a foster home and getting the exposer of the city life that he needed. Sorry again for leaving you in the dust. Thank you for being so patient with us"

This has thrown me in quite a loop. I've been looking at many other dogs, and was even planning to visit an akita for adoption in south jersey this weekend. Assuming I might of get this dog, I get this message today. It really puts me in a tough spot because I still have a heart for Connor, who Ive wanted for so long, but it still isnt guaranteed I'll get Connor and if I wait for him, I may lose out on two dogs.

I want to respond to their message. Point out that not only I've been waiting for a response for him but also looking around for other dogs, assuming that the adoption for Connor was not happening. I also wanted to add in some how that I wanted to know what are my chances of things not being successful with the other dog and me getting Connor, though I know they cant give me an answer in black and white, but something, maybe at least an estimated time frame would be somewhat helpful. I really want Connor but at the same time I cant wait around forever for an adoption that may or may not happen

 

[Lucille]

There are PLENTY of dogs that need adopting, you will NEVER run out of a large pool of potential adoptable dogs.
Why not wait a few months and see whether you can get the dog your really want?
At least they wrote back, and apologized. They should not have left you in the dark so long, but this note to you was a small step in the right direction.

 

[Shadera]

Do what your heart tells you to do. Might take some soul-searching, but the answer IS there.

 

[SilverRaichu]

yes, I do appreciate them getting back to me.
Better late then never. So I should wait..? I know that if I am able to adopt Connor, I wouldnt be any happier as he is the dog I had my heart set on for the longest time already, I just wonder if I didnt get him, what would happen? Am I looking at being heart broken yet again...?
(my god it feels like Im talking about a boyfriend lol)

 

[Lucille]

Do what your heart tells you to do. Might take some soul-searching, but the answer IS there.

An incredibly good answer. I'd go with it.

 

[SilverRaichu]

Well my heart says "go for him!hes what you've been wanting all along!"
my gut says "your screwed pal"

 

[Shadera]

If Connor is the dog you want, then wait for him. If it's meant to be, it will be. If it's not, that means there's an even better dog out there waiting to find his way to you.