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bulding new tank

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:uzi:hi I'm going to build a new tank but i don't know What dimensions i should use. can any1 give me some suggestions. and would it be okay to make it tall so they could climb. I'm putting 3 Columbian red tail boas in the cage.there sizes are 6ft., 4ft and 1ft. please help me.:eatsmiley
 
My suggestion is that you build 3 different cages. Generally, housing multiple snakes in a single enclosure is not recommended. While you could argue that they are all the same species, so they can be kept together; the size differences between the 3 individuals is to great...any of the smaller ones could become a snack for any of the larger ones (especially after feeding, when they have normal prey scent on them). As for the dimensions, take a look at the space you have available and crunch some numbers. I would recommend 8-10sq ft of floor space for the largest (it still has some growing to do). If you want to go with smaller floor space, and build up instead, the snake will certainly take advantage of it. Before you jump into building, though, you need to consider materials, how you will seal it, how you will access the cage, that access will be secured (so the snake doesn't get out), how you will heat it. You should also think about ease of cleaning and ventilation. Making your own cages can be fun or frustrating, and you can make them as simple or fancy as you want...from functional to fabulous.
 
sry hhmoore but i'm not a stupid little kid i already know whow much space i have , i know who to seal it and all the other little things and they have been in the same cage for about 1yr now and theres 2 males and 1 female and i have had no problems yet. neither has ever shown any aggression towards 1 of the others. and i've got about 10'x10'x10' of space to use
 
There's no need in being defensive. hhmoore Has given you good sound advice and was being thorough in his comment, not condecending. Good luck in your endeavor.
 
I may have to stop responding to questions posed by minors...I'm getting tired of the attitudes
 
I feel your frustration. I have three girls. For every one young herper with attitude there are two who want, need and will embrace any help sent in their direction. Don't give up. Regards, Art
 
Art Klass said:
I feel your frustration. I have three girls. For every one young herper with attitude there are two who want, need and will embrace any help sent in their direction. Don't give up. Regards, Art
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Nah - I'm a glutton for punishment...but it would be nice to come across a couple of the appreciative ones for a change
 
apep... your acting like a kid by housing them together.. if you have that much space.. just build 3 damn vivs..

i house my 9.5 foot Super salmon in a 8ft long 3 ft high 4 ft wide viv... and i have 2 more the same dimensions on top of that one for my yearling BCC CRTB ladder tail and my 100% het piebald Female BP... and for all 3 vivs it cost me 300$ to build...
 
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sry hhmoore but i'm not a stupid little kid i already know whow much space i have , i know who to seal it and all the other little things and they have been in the same cage for about 1yr now and theres 2 males and 1 female and i have had no problems yet. neither has ever shown any aggression towards 1 of the others. and i've got about 10'x10'x10' of space to use
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Anyone want to bet that he's not old enough to vote? His response alone warrants the conclusion. You come here and ask for help and receive sound advice only to step on your own pecker.

Don't give up Harald. One day he will learn the err of his ways....

Griz
 
olny 1 person has owned these snakes before and only from when they where born and i bout them right when they were ready to be sold and he never said anything about them to gether and they like being together so i dont want them to be alone all the time excpet for when i'm holding them. and dutch oven i am only 15 but i know alot more about reptiles then u might think
 
Apep said:
i am only 15 but i know alot more about reptiles then u might think
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that may well be...but at the same time, probably not nearly as much as YOU think
 
Apep said:
they have been in the same cage for about 1yr now and theres 2 males and 1 female and i have had no problems yet.
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So let me get this right, you are going to wait till there is a problem before you fix it? Once there is a problem it is "too little, too late." Responsible keepers take care of problems before they arise, not after! Please listen to what these people are trying to tell you, it is not for your own good, but more for the snakes! I realize you know alot about reptiles for your age, but no one knows everything and when you have more than one person telling you the same thing you should listen. Remember you came here asking for advice.
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Age of the snakes ????

Apap
I noted in your original post, you mention that the snakes are three diffrent
sizes. But later state that you purchased them at the same time at the same age?
And that the person that you purchased from, did not mention that putting them together was a problem.
I am confused a bit .......if the snakes were purchased as neonates at the same time why such a span in size ?
They are all Redtails correct?
Please tell me they were seperate purchases and quite some time apart.
Since one being 6ft and one only being 1 ft. is a problem if they are the same age.
I must also agree with Hhmoore, housing them together may cause more problems than you need.
Avoid pitfalls and you never have to be pulled out.

Ginger Ambrose
 
Apep
If you have the space, why struggle to make or purchase three different cages for them. I have not read nor has anyone ever told me that Boas do better in a group. Check your references, I mean if one person has said to keep them together as a group and everyone else suggests to keep separated... It's not a conspiracy, I don't think anyone here wants you to do something that would hurt your animals. I'm 40 years old and have kept snakes almost as long as you've been around (13yrs) and I'm still learning and when I'm 60 I still wont know it all. In the end you must decide what's right/good for your animals.
Mike Derks
 
Apep... These snakes will not "get lonely" if they are housed separately. Snakes are not like cats or dogs, as I'm sure you know. Aside from breeding, they do not want to be near each other. They do not socialize, except for breeding.

Snakes being in close proximity and unable to "get away" from each other can be stressed! THAT is the reason for having separate cages. Not to mention being able to tell which one just pooped or shed.

If you must, you can keep two similarly sized ones in the same enclosure as long as there is a lot of room so that each can have multiple hiding spots at different temperature gradients.... but having a "1ft" boa in a cage with a 4ft and 6ft? One of the large ones, even if they don't eat the smaller one, might accidentally crush it just by wandering around the cage.

Just because you haven't had an issue so far doesn't mean it won't happen.
 
hi, if you really want to build a cage for all 3 boas here's what you do. go 3' deep x 3' high x 5' long. then put a shelf in it on one side about 2' wide x 3' deep(make it a tiny bit smaller so you can remove it for cleaning. put four 1' legs on it and you are set. in my tanks i use a glass front and bottom(1/4" plate glass) for sanitary reasons. good luck,ted
 
hi, if you really want to build a cage for all 3 boas here's what you do. go 3' deep x 3' high x 5' long. then put a shelf in it on one side about 2' wide x 3' deep(make it a tiny bit smaller so you can remove it for cleaning. put four 1' legs on it and you are set. in my tanks i use a glass front and bottom(1/4" plate glass) for sanitary reasons. good luck,ted p.s. you can go longer if you have the room. also remember seperate during feeding time(big rubbermaid containers work well).
 
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