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can a leo be Het for Giant?

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I have a leo for sale on the classifieds that as het for Tremper which I have proven and as poss het for Giant. I have not giants in my collection so this is not proven.

I recieved a message that a leo cannot be Het for giant as this is not possible.

Is this true? If so I want to remove the info as well as contact the person who I recieved it from who sold it as a het for giant.
 
Hmmm...

I also have two leos 1 albino and one "normal" that i was told were possible giants. I guess we will have to wait for the leo experts to jump in and answer this one.
 
I want to see what everyoe else has on that but something tells me its not possible.I think its either Giant or its not...say you breed a gaint and a normal.the babies have a 50%chance of being giant and 50% chance of being normal.They will either get that gaint gene or not.If not they are not and not het either.I think but I may be wrong.genetics is not my strong point.
Robin
 
there used to be het for giants until tremper had a revalation that they are a co-dominant trait
so not no such thing as a het giant... it either is or it isnt and thus have been oproven as fact
 
Technically there is such a thing as a het giant...however it will BE giant. Homozygous dominant giants are "super giants," and heterozygous giants are "giants." Normals are normals...there is no such thing as a het giant that looks like a normal.
 
Technically there is such a thing as a het giant...however it will BE giant. Homozygous dominant giants are "super giants," and heterozygous giants are "giants." Normals are normals...there is no such thing as a het giant that looks like a normal.
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agreed.
 
geeze just keep it simple... dont go all wanna be einstien over here simple question simple answer
 
Giant is a co-dominant trait, so you can't have a leo het for giant since it is not recessive.
 
I am being simple...het means two different alleles...not two different alleles in a recessive trait. Genetically a giant is a het...simple as that.
 
StinaUIUC said:
Technically there is such a thing as a het giant...however it will BE giant. Homozygous dominant giants are "super giants," and heterozygous giants are "giants." Normals are normals...there is no such thing as a het giant that looks like a normal.
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Ditto- Agreed
 
nicolai said:
I also have two leos 1 albino and one "normal" that i was told were possible giants. I guess we will have to wait for the leo experts to jump in and answer this one.
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With giants showing no signs of being what they are other many being lanky and thier size this could be pretty common. If someone where to breed a giant to a non giant half the babioes would be gaints. If sold young those babies wouldn't really be giants for sure so any sold couldn't 100% be sold as giants they would have to see how big they got and how fast and to be 100 % sure breed it and prove it out.....
 
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no... yes...

To answer the original question, "I recieved a message that a leo cannot be Het for giant as this is not possible. Is this true?" There really is no such thing as "het for Giant". A gecko either expresses the trait or is does not. Tremper was wrong about his own morph being recessive, and shattered the earth with his news when he admitted it.
 
Hmmm...

robin s. said:
just go away please
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Robin..That wasn't very nice..He was answering a question.

If there arent het for giants why do i see ads like this on fauna.



MorphTiles said:
He is a 2 yr old Het for Tremper albino, poss het for giant. I have proven his albino het. His giant het is unproven because I don't have any other giant in my line to prove it out, although some of the babies last year were much longer then what I typically produce.
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And on people web sites....

Super Hypo Carrot Tail Male

A&M Gecko said:
One more het giant to het giant baby. Great animal and 66% possible het albino. He looks to be a giant as well, not as big as the top animal but only 4 months old..
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others...

[url said:
http://www.friendlylizard.com][/url]

Giant Albinos
Giants het for Albino
Albinos het for Tremper Giant..
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Is this false advertising then????
 
nicolai said:
Robin..That wasn't very nice..He was answering a question.
If there arent het for giants why do i see ads like this on fauna.
And on people web sites....
Super Hypo Carrot Tail Male
others...
Is this false advertising then????
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Nicolai its nothing more than them not knowing, that or they don't care.
 
nicolai said:
Robin..That wasn't very nice..He was answering a question.
If there arent het for giants why do i see ads like this on fauna.
And on people web sites....
Super Hypo Carrot Tail Male
thers...
s this false advertising then????
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Alberto is well aware of giants and them being co-dom I'm sure that is an old post. To add Ron Tremper himself told me he has sold many giants to Alberto as normal non gaint albinos, that what he thought was het where probably giants. Before its was proven that the giant trait was a co-dom and I think that was the year before last or last year RT stated it was recessive so its not really anyones fault as the false statements prior to that other than RT.
 
sorry nicoli i wasnt aiming that comment at chad... sorry but personally simpicity is the way to go... it is easier to understand and to not get confused and dealing with hets in a co dominant trait (or so ron says) can get quite confusing.
 
Nicolai, as for my ad that is why I started this thread. That animal was sold to me as het for giant and het for tremper. I have proven it for giant but never did anything with giants. I had no idea there was no het for giant. I have made a note on the animal about the het for giant not beign true now that I have more information.
 
nicolai said:
Robin..That wasn't very nice..He was answering a question.

If there arent het for giants why do i see ads like this on fauna.





And on people web sites....

Super Hypo Carrot Tail Male



others...



Is this false advertising then????
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Marketing ploy..... Plain and simple..... Or like Xavier said, the breeder not being sure or they just do not care..... Either way an animal will fetch more money sometimes if you put possible het for this and that.....

Personaly, I do not buy het for anything...... If I can see the trait, I dont buy it.....
 
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