• Responding to email notices you receive.
    **************************************************
    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

  • IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ!! About the Google Adsense ads being displayed

    =====================
    Posted 08/15/2025
    =====================


    Yeah, I know. They are a pain in the butt. But they pay the bills to keep my server running. Just a fact of life, I am afraid.

    Want to get rid of them? Simple. Just become a Contributor level member or above and they will be gone. -> Please click HERE."

    Is that too much for me to ask of you to keep this site running? Well, sorry about that. I too wish I could get everything for free. But alas.....

    =====================
    Addendum: 01/10/2026
    =====================


    Google Adsense ad revenue for December, 2025 was just $30 over the cost of the lease for the server running this site. So, in effect, the money providing the incentive for me to continue running this site is coming SOLELY from the paid memberships and sponsorships here. Which honestly ain't much....

Changes with PayPal concerning how refunds are handled.

WebSlave

WebSlave

It is what it is, but certainly not what it was.
Staff member
Staff
Joined
Feb 3, 2002
Messages
20,505
Reaction score
864
Points
113
Location
Crawfordville, FL
Just got a notice today of changes with PayPal, and the one that got my attention was this one:

We’re changing how we treat refunds. If you refund (partially or fully) a transaction to a buyer or a donation to a donor, there are no fees to make the refund, but the fees you originally paid as the seller will not be returned to you.
Click to expand...

Eh? Does that mean that when someone pays for a membership or sponsorship, and that was not what they intended, and when I refund their money, I have to take a hit on the PayPal fee?

Sorry, the brain feels sort of soggy today, and what they are saying just is not clear to me at the moment.
 
Well, that looks to be about the size of it. -> http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=685966

So effective that date, if I have to issue a refund via PayPal, and the error was not on my part, the PayPal fees I am charged will NOT be refunded.

Of course, if the error is my fault, I will have to eat the fees.
 
BTW, concerning this issue, just today I had someone ask me about refunding the amount they paid 6 months ago for a Contributor level membership when they upgraded to a Benefactor level. Ordinarily people will ask me about this prior to initiating the upgrade and I normally work with them to have them pay the difference. But in this case, heck, now with PayPal not refunding the fee I had to pay when the original transaction took place PLUS the fact that the refund request is taking place after the time period that PayPal used to offer a refund without penalty, really complicates things.

So in a nutshell, PLEASE ask first! I do appreciate the upgrades from people who found that they appreciated this site enough to want to upgrade, but things are complicated now if any sort of refund is wanted. Quite frankly, it's a headache that I would just as soon avoid if at all possible.

Let's see, prorating the cost of the Contributor level membership, then figuring out the percentage of the fee that PayPal is keeping, then since this will not actually be a legitimate refund according to PayPal's rules, but just an out and out payment, will PayPal deduct their fee from this "refund" being made to the purchaser? :nuts:

So help me out here, please. Don't abuse this 70 year old brain I am stuck with!

Perhaps the best thing would be for me to just state categorely that NO REFUNDS are offered unless I specifically made the mistake that caused the expenditure. After all, why should I pay for someone else's mistake? Not just in $$ but in time spent trying to clean up the mess.
 
Can you kind of wiggle the expiration date of the higher membership level further into the future as a means of letting the lower paid membership's value flow into the current situation without having to move money around?
 
nickolasanastasiou said:
Can you kind of wiggle the expiration date of the higher membership level further into the future as a means of letting the lower paid membership's value flow into the current situation without having to move money around?
Click to expand...

Yeah, I can do that. With the prorated amount of the Contributor level membership with the before mentioned deductions considered, we would be talking about $10. That would be 10 percent of the value of the next level membership, so that would be a bit over a month in additional time. Not that I would want to make a habit doing that sort of thing, however. :eek:
 
Back
Top