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Bad Guy David Davilman 'Never Enough Reptiles'

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On September 7th I sent David Davilman, “Never Enough Reptiles” the full payment for a crested gecko he had listed on Kingsnake after contacting him about purchasing the animal.

On September 8th he sent me a gecko. It was the wrong gecko; I contacted him immediately about the mixup. This is the animal when it first arrived.
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I noticed the front legs looked a little swollen and lumpy in person (it’s difficult to see in the photo), but ignored it as myself just being a little paranoid.

David was very nice and very apologetic. He said I could keep the wrong gecko (at the time I was pretty thrilled about that) and that he would send out the correct gecko on September 13th.

September 14th arrives, no gecko. I send him an e-mail asking if he’d sent the gecko because it had not arrived. He replied with:
“I sent you an email yesterday to confirm you could accept today. I didn't get a response so I didn't ship. Looking at our message log, it doesn't appear my email was sent.”

He shipped the gecko on the 15th. On the 16th no gecko, so I call him after checking the tracking number. The gecko didn’t leave the FedEx location; there was some type of mix up. Not his fault. He said he would ship out the following Monday.

The following day, I noticed the crested I had gotten from him was crashing BIG TIME when I got home in the morning from work.
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It’s flat, not fat, like a pancake and the legs are bowing severely. It was also shaking constantly, as though it had palsy.

There’s… not really any way MBD that bad could set in that fast, even if there was something going wrong with my care. I didn’t want to accuse, I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, and he did still have my other gecko so I didn’t want to act harshly prematurely. So I e-mailed him and asked what he was feeding them on the 17th. He said baby food and crickets. Concerned for the gecko of mine still in his care, I asked him to please feed it some extra calcium. He said he did.

I was really hoping it was a fluke, that it was just this one gecko.

On September 21st the correct gecko arrived. These are photos taken immediately out of the box (with the photo from the Kingsnake ad he had taken).
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Suspicions confirmed he wasn’t supplementing correctly, I e-mailed him immediately after taking the photos and sent those with the e-mail.

I e-mailed him twice more on the 22nd and asked him for a partial refund.

On the 23rd I e-mailed him again, saying, “Hey David, I’m not sure what went wrong with the geckos, but they’re both in bad shape and I’d appreciate a response.”

I have both e-mailed and called him with no response to any messages what-so-ever. I feel I’ve given him ample time to respond to me in some way about selling me geckos with MBD before making this post. I have also e-mailed him with a link to this topic should he choose to reply to it.

-(Amanda) Faye Parker
 
That sucks....that gecko definitely has something wrong with it that didn't just pop up over night. I hope that you get a resolution but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
 
E-mail correspondence would help.

If David plans on selling cresteds then he needs to invest in some CGD.. Baby Food and Crickets are just not enough for the poor babies. I would definately avoid purchasing from someone who doesn't properly care for his animals! It's sad that the poor babies are suffering at his hands :(
 
Can MBD like that be reversed with proper care? I sure hope so! Poor little baby looks skinny, too. :(
 
Can MBD like that be reversed with proper care? I sure hope so! Poor little baby looks skinny, too. :(

Sometimes, yes. It depends on how severe the MBD is, and how long the geckos have been going without a proper diet and supplements.
Unfortunatly those geckos were probably never cared for and fed properly. Usually the baby food diet results in an obese gecko, but those geckos look skinny- especially the last one. So it would seem to me from the way they look that not only was he feeding them the wrong food, but he was only feeding them barely enough to keep them alive.
I do hope they can be saved though - they have suffered enough.
At least they have a chance, since they are in better hands now.
 
Guys, while the MBD discussion is great and the help and advice is probably appreciated by the OP, this is still a BOI thread about David Davilman, not really the place for husbandry discussions about how to help these geckos.
Rather than a lengthy discourse about that here, taking the thread off the intended topic, take your advice about the condition and treatment of the geckos to PM or a thread in the discussion forums.
We need to keep BOI threads focused on the person or business they are about.
 
Not surprising that the seller hasn't posted a reponse to the BOI thread yet. Those cases of MBD are clearly caused by the poor diet fed to those geckos.
 
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